Originally Posted by keith
I saw a small collection of Marble Game Getter's and Ithaca Auto & Burglar guns a few years ago on display at a Pennsylvania Gun Collector's Assn. Gun show. I always thought they were cool, and could never understand why they, especially the Game Getter's, were restricted as AOW's under the NFA. Even with the shorter barrels, they wouldn't be very concealable compared to many there firearms.

Was there some recent change in the regulations concerning these guns? I had heard you now only need a C&R license to transfer them, but don't know if that is at all accurate. You seem to have been particularly cautious about keeping a great distance between the frames and the original shorter barrels?

Short barrels are still considered NFA items according to my areas ATF director... My brother inlaw (FFL holder) and I bought the contents of an old sporting goods / junk shop that had over 400 guns, including some "de-wat" machine guns and other items that had been amnestied in 1968. We were given the paperwork and told that should be it... loaded the truck & van and after getting home, I started to research the "de-wat" items and the next morning took them to a 07 FFL friend and got them on his books so we could deal with the issue of proper transfer... it's been 6 years now, and things haven't been cleared up. The "executor" of the estate isn't cooperating with signing off on the transfer paperwork... my suspicion is that he sold over 30 other amnestied items without knowing and now realizes he is in hot water... the reason for the number is that he gave me the entire amnesty paperwork file... Vicker's machine gun, Browning machine guns, German machine guns, short barreled shotguns, short barreled rifles... they had all been "display" items on the shop walls. Most weren't anything special, "truck" guns, sporterized military rifles, tubs of well worn pistols... and derelict shotguns, but it was worth the $18k we spent. So, yes, I am cautious... no sense in taking unnecessary risks when I don't have to. Here's a few pics of the shop... it was full of stuff, mostly junk, but there were 18 antique display cases, a bunch of saddles, vintage guitars (some were pretty nice), ammo, reloading gear, tools, 1950's & 60's Winchester, Remington, Browning and Savage store advertising and lots of dug relic guns... if you look close at the guns in the last pic, you will see the DeWat items... 2 PPSH machine guns, a Japanese knee morter and a WWII German - Wa marked .22 machine gun that we've been told was for training aircraft gunners...
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