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I think he slipped on the ice like Buzz.


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ed, they are here illegally. What don’t you understand?

Yup.

Best,
Ted

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Couldn’t have happened to a finer group of p̵e̵o̵p̵l̵e̵ voters.

Trump obviously knew that his Executive Order reversing the flawed theory of Birthright Citizenship would result in lawsuits, and that would force the Supreme Court to decide the issue once and hopefully for all.

Here is a good article explaining why the 1898 Wong Kim Ark decision, and the false notion of jus soli, was in error:

https://americanmind.org/salvo/birthright-citizenship-game-on/

This was further explained by Constitutional Scholar Mark Levin on 1/25/2025:



None of us here will ultimately decide this issue. The same Liberal Left Democrats who reject Trump's Order also argued for decades that the 2nd Amendment did not confer and Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms. They were in total denial of the Original Intent of the Framers, even though their debates, speeches, and writings behind it were there for all to see. That was finally decided in the 2008 Heller decision... and Liberal Democrats still do everything they can to circumvent our Constitutional 2nd Amendment Rights.

extracted from above:

Trump’s executive order looks to redefine the constitutional right of birthright citizenship to exclude the children of noncitizens. In your opinion, does he have any legal ground to stand on?
No. Now, there’s really two reasons for that. The first is that this is an executive order, not an act of Congress, right? And so the first question is, does the president on his own have the power to redefine citizenship? And to do that, he would have to be able to point to some law enacted by Congress or something in the Constitution specifically that says the president can do this — and there is nothing like that. The Supreme Court has held, in some cases during the Biden administration when President Biden tried to do certain things on his own through executive orders like student-debt relief or certain kinds of COVID policies, that there was no statute that gave him the power to do these things.

Now, the second problem is even if you thought there was some law that supported the executive order in an act of Congress, it’s unconstitutional. The reason it’s unconstitutional is that when the 14th Amendment was ratified, there were only a couple of very narrow exceptions to the rule that everyone born here is a citizen and none of those exceptions have anything to do with the fact that your parents may or may not have done something. The example that the executive order cites is to say people who have come here illegally are invaders. And it is true that back when the 14th Amendment was ratified, if you had an invading army — Canada invades Maine and then children are born in Maine under Canadian occupation — those children would not be considered birth citizens because, in effect, that part of the country would not be under the control of the government, right? It would be totally under enemy control.

ed,
If you are a citizen of somewhere else, not born here, and give birth, that child is not a US citizen.

If you are a citizen of somewhere else, and have crossed the US border without authorization, you are a criminal, whether you are pregnant, or, not.

Do not pass go, get out, go home, take your spoor with you.

Best,
Ted

ted, well then, pls provide definition of birth right citizenship as defined by the constitution ...

He already did that, ed. The U S Supreme Court may well have the deciding say on this. Then, you can tell them why they're wrong.

The citizenship goes to the child, not the parent. Why do you do hate the child? What has it done that offends you?
Is it's skin color too often a wee bit dark for you? What is it?

And what about children of mixed citizenship status parents or children of legal immigrants? How are those children different and superior, or do you throw them out too? You guys have a lot of hate.

I wonder how many here can produce documentation that their ancestral lineage is pure enough to pass muster?

Well, if you want to bring up hating the child, you maybe should start with the nearly 1 million abortions performed, mostly on black and brown babies every year. That seems pretty hateful to me.

My wife was a legal immigrant when our son was born. She held a green card, because, that is the way you are supposed to immigrate to the U S, legally. She applied, waited her turn, paid her fees, had her medical examination, was vetted for, and pronounced free of loathsome third world diseases and was granted a green card, that led to citizenship.

What you seem too dense to realize is the 14th is very specific about who is a citizen by birth, and who is not. If you don’t like it, change the law, don’t ignore it.

Best,
Ted

The 14th is NOT specific other than "jurisdiction". It does not say legal immigrants or citizens. Just "jurisdiction". Let that sink is a bit, Ted. You have problems with comprehension.

If you do not like it, change it. But it is what it is. Of course, paternal parentage is always in question - got the proof? Thought not.

Frankly, I do not care whether your wife was legal or not. How does that affect the child? Is the child somehow less desirable or defective if the parent is not "legal"?

Your hate is long and dark, my friend.