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tim, a person, physically in one of the u.s. of a states, is in the jurisdiction of said state and the federal gubmint...

if one is born here, one is a citizen of the us of a...

the children of diplomats are exceptions, who may apply for permanent residency status...

the 14th amendment lists no other specific exceptions...

do we now have to deal with conservative revisionist interpretations of the constitution...

hope not, as it means we are no different than the others trying to bend the law of the land to accommodate our own selfish interests...

uh John, there ain't no expiration date for the amendments to the constitution...

Nevermind.

" if one is born here, one is a citizen of the us of a..." Sorry ed not true to all, go back and re-read the 14th Amendment, and this time let it sink in.

Why are criminals afforded privileges denied to legally present diplomatic personnel?

The 14th was written to grant citizenship to slaves, not illegal aliens. If the amendment was reimagined and misapplied afterwards, this isn't about bending the law, it's about correcting the misapplication of the law. Originalism isn't revisionism, conservatives want to straighten the law, not bend it.



“The Fourteenth Amendment has been, without a doubt, the most dynamic part of the United States Constitution since the Civil War,” said Michael P. Zuckert, professor emeritus of political science at the University of Notre Dame.

The amendment’s application had been a little like an accordion, with its first set of uses very narrow. “But once it started to broaden, everything becomes part of the 14th Amendment,” Zuckert said.

While the 14th Amendment was intended to correct the moral wrongs of slavery, it has been repurposed and reinterpreted over the past 157 years in cases involving American workdays, schools, train cars, interracial marriages, birth control and even the possession of pornography.

Shirley, you jest, nothing's on fire. The profs. of this country invented, and claim that the constitution is a living and breathing document. Maybe, the prof's President just want to test the theory in court. Instead of making chit up, convince your Representatives and Senators to pass law that narrows the definition. You know, immigration reform that resembles enforcement of what's already law.

Figure of speech, ed. How about "outlived its usefulness for its intended purpose"? Feel better? Didn't think you would.
JR

John, that is as pathetic as it is just wrong. Lots of people say the same thing about 2A. But only you get to pick and choose? Really?

It is funny you guys want to hide behind the phrase "jurisdiction" phrase while treating 2A's "militia" phrase as if it does not exist.

Hypocrisy rules here on the doublegun Politics, all day, every day, forum.

The Supreme Court ruled in Heller that the definition of militias extended beyond organized and regulated state and national militias and up to the people, themselves.

Look it up.

Best,
Ted

No kidding? Who knew?

Sarcasm off.