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Living in the deep south and especially in Georgia, firearms possession and hunting rights have been and will be unimpeded for many years to come. That hasn't driven me in to a buying fever, but more recently a selling or disposition fever, but keeping more than I need or want in recognition that old age is undefeated. While I had a blivet of long guns, they were more of a clutter than a collection. I have passed through the stage of life that Phil Gramm immortalized when he said he had all the guns he needed but not all the guns he wanted. Gil

One of the things that brings me true pleasure is plinking and informal clays shooting with kids, particularly grandkids, and the kids of nieces and nephews that I did similar with, when they were kids. I gladly accumulate newer platforms, because my experiences tell me that it is one way to the biggest smiles and kindling flames.

The kids don’t seem to care what they shoot. Yet, anyway.

My son had his choice of just about anything in the house for his trap league. He narrowed it down to three, an A5 12, a Super Black Eagle I, both grampa’s guns, and, precious to him for that reason, and a lowly Mossberg 500 12, that really was owned by me, but, frequently loaned out to people to use in duck boats-the thing has been to Canada a dozen times with a former gun safety student of mine, now all grown up with kids of his own. He settled on the ugly 500 with the spray painted stock because he shoots it the best.

He lettered on the varsity team his first year out. He hasn’t used anything else in a long time.

Best,
Ted

Good quality sells well and brings good money. Doubles are down, I think that is demographics myself. Classic rifles are up, especially single shots and bolt guns. The collectables market is hard to predict. I see little correlation between the.value of vintage firearms and the political party in charge. I found the post covid period the last few years to be an excellent selling environment and expect that to continue as long as the economy remains strong.

Stan, you're absolutely right.

Nobody really knows what comes next. I'm merely suggesting that folks who have been holding off on a nicer gun purchase might not feel so-conflicted about making that sort of investment now. Private (& corporate) capitol everywhere will quickly start to flow into things that seemed threatened by the pernicious liberal (Commie?) overreach we were all living with for the last 4 years.

It's a new day in America. Thank God (& Trump) for it.

Handwringing over something we have no control over??

If you look at some of more respected doublegun dealer site's you could get the idea that the market for run of the mill used shooter type guns is still at the top of the crazy covid market of '21-'22. I'm on the sidelines at this point after being in the hunt for well over 30yrs of looking for the next SxS prize to add to my safe. I'm now waiting for the big market correction which will surely happen.

In Colorado, we will now have another thing to contend with, where the progressive voters on the front range just passed a 6.5% excise tax by a 65% margin for all sales of guns, ammo and many categories of guns parts & accessories. Now if we buy one of our beloved doubles from a local dealer or off a site like Gunbroker, we will have to pay the 6.5% on top of the regular state sales tax. In some instances, if you're buying from a local dealer when you add in the local taxes you may be paying as high as 15% tax on a gun or ammo purchase, then you might have to add another 3.5% if you use a credit card. This will come into play in the decision-making process if your contemplating purchasing a fairly expensive gun.

The election might be over, but the headwinds are still blowing in many states across the nation.

For as long as I've been a member on this forum, there have been grim predictions about the collapse of double gun values. I've been patiently waiting for all of these bargains as shooters age out and demand falls, but by and large, selling prices for domestically produced doubles are holding their own. In no reserve internet gun auctions, prices for even lowly 12 ga. field grade guns are stable, or have increased to a degree. Same for private sales, and sales at gun shows and gun shops.

Those who bought British doubles at the top of the market have been blind-sided by falling prices, and the market has been flooded as British gun owners have sold their guns en masse as a result of lead ammunition bans and increased anti-gun laws and regulations. Even many higher grade guns are not appreciating in value as they did in the past. The same could easily happen here if we take our eyes off the ball, and permit anti-gun Democrats to continue to chip away at our Gun Rights. We can relax and celebrate right now, but if we become complacent, we will all lose in the end. The anti-gunners play the long game, and they are counting on us to just roll over and let it happen.

Even with the proof in plain sight, some gun owners still want us to ignore the obvious:



There is no kind or polite way to say that sentiment is beyond stupid. Without the 2nd Amendment, strong Gun Rights organizations like the NRA and GOA, Supreme Court Justices who enforce the original intent of the 2nd Amendment, the votes of pro-2nd Amendment shooters and pro-gun politicians, we would be in the same dark places as gun owners in Great Britain, Australia, or Canada, where handguns became totally illegal to buy, sell, or transfer last year.

We would see the cost of shooting increase dramatically, as just happened in Colorado in Prop. 127. We would see onerous storage requirements, we would see increased costs to buy and sell firearms through taxes, fees, and regulations that punish law abiding gun owners.

Demand for many collectibles such as guns and classic cars has fallen somewhat. All of us will eventually age out of the shooting sports, just as our Fathers and Grandfathers did. We will be replaced by other shooters and gun owners, and some will eventually gravitate toward doubles... just like we did.

Political Threads like this may not be popular to those who support the anti-gun Democrats. They may continue to get locked and shut down. And doing so will not save this forum or make it more popular. It will only give cover to those who represent the greatest threat to the value of all firearms.

Another Firearms forum I visit every day has sub-forums devoted to the 2nd Amendment and General Political Discussion. There are dozens of Threads with hundreds of pages of Funny Political Pictures, Memes, and topics that are surely offensive to gun owners who foolishly support anti-gun Democrats. There is no coddling of those types whatsoever. They are the ones who are getting locked out or shut down... and the site is thriving without them. When you have termites in a wood framed house... the worst possible thing you could do is permit the colony to grow.

Dogon: Many states are clearly still problematic and Colorado is now one of them.

I've been here for 40-years but...I might not be making my last stand here. Until then, I'll be hauling ammo back home from the neighboring states by the flat. Every fishing trip to Wyoming will include a fill-up on shells.

People can still vote with their feet and if pushed much-further we likely will as well. I've heard that California now adds a departure tax for folks fleeing their Marxist utopia. We'll be long-gone before that ever happens here.

Good thing for Red, White and Blue Americans like dogon, who explain your political environment, and your carefully crafted comment. Lol, I wasn’t the biggest fan of CO odds and end purchases, but let’s up the ante.

I think Colorado gun owners now have a legal reason to file a class action lawsuit against there state for "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" as given to each and every United State of America citizen in the second ammendment, if charging a extra tax is not a infringement I don't know what is.