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Any comments on the Jurjevic trigger? I have a graded Fox with one installed.

What make ST did Percy Stansbury have on his Webley?

IMO inertia single triggers are easier to diagnose and fix, when they're not working properly, than mechanical ones. Maybe it's just the way my brain works but I can understand inertia triggers better than I can mechanical ones.

I fixed a Beretta Silver Snipe single trigger some months ago for a friend. I cleaned it in the ultrasonic then lubed it carefully with a thin oil. He said it worked a few shots then stopped working. I agreed to look at it again, puzzled. I found that the inertia block, the swinging weight which moves in relation to the recoil, was swinging on a pin which was actually a screw which could be tightened or loosened. I determined that it was a tiny bit too tight which was creating a "drag" on the weight as it tried to swing freely. I loosened that tiny screw just a bit and everything has worked fine since.

I'm a mechanical/technical junkie. I love figuring out and understanding mechanisms. Because of this I am a big fan of selective ejectors on break open guns. When they're right they are a sheer joy to me. Triggers are, too. My first love is double triggers. But I will not write a gun off completely solely because it has a single trigger. I have numerous ones. All mine work perfectly. I have had one HOT double on me, but I have determined that it was operator error, not the trigger itself. My pre-'13 LC Smith grade 3 has a HOT. It was originally a pigeon gun, with 3" chambers and 32" barrels. I used it with 1 1/4 oz. handloads of bismuth, and it doubled on me. There are two kinds of doubling. One is where the trigger messes up and causes the doubling. The other is caused by the shooter, when the recoil causes him to hit the trigger twice, the second time because of the recoil. This is what happened to me. It has never doubled with 1 1/8 oz., or less, loads, only with heavy duck loads.

Maybe part of the blame that single selective triggers receive isn't the trigger's fault at all, but the shooter's. Either way, I agree that double triggers are preferred .......... most of the time.

ROFLMAO Stan. Your MX-8 have double triggers does it? Your 687?

Single triggers were perfected long ago, at least as far back as Val Browning.

I agree that double triggers belong on SxS game guns but that's where it ends.

I've never been tempted to buy a conversion, a Brit single trigger, or anything made in Spain or Turkey.

Nor a Corvette with a bench seat.

No news there anywhere. I've made that point that single triggers have been perfected many times, just not again in this thread.

As to my MX8 not having double triggers, it would be senseless. It has two fixed chokes, Mod and Mod. No need to switch barrels. And the 20 ga. 687 you mentioned, my dove O/U, if I knew I could trust someone to convert it properly, I'd likely have it done. I have considered Cole's for this exact job. No single trigger can match two triggers for instant choke selection.

Hope you recover from your rolling on the floor laughing fit. Glad I could provide a laugh for you, but I see nothing funny about it myself.

The single trigger in a Parker repro is NOT vintage, if I am not mistaken it is a different design entirely. Mr. Vicknair goes into the major problem with this trigger (idiots working on them) in his blog.

https://vicknairgunsmithing.blogspot.com/2024/09/un-botching-another-parker-repro-single.html

I’ve worked on a few single triggers over the years, and, rather strangely, never felt compelled to take a grinder to the sear noses. Others, feel differently, it would seem.

Best,
Ted

I remember the Parker Repro SST as a copy of the orig Parker vintage SST.
There were likely some spec changes to the parts for mfg purposes, but the overall design as I remember it was the same.
We were able to get Repro parts for the SST and the PArker Repro Ejectors in the 90's yet and used some of them for repairs on vintage guns.
It's still not a case of just parts swapping to make things work. You have to fully understand the mechanism first.

The one rule still holds true:
People armed with files, grinders and little knowledge are the worst enemy of the SSTrigger assemblies (and the Ejectors as well)

You can't just start shortening parts, changing angles no matter how slight it may seem in hopes that it'll somehow then simply work..
when it didn't before you started on that unguided journey.

My mistake. There were two versions of the single trigger used in Parker originals, and the later, more reliable version made it into the reproductions.

Best,
Ted

I was under the impression the Skeuse Parker Repros used the second generation Parker SST. The new trigger was on the late 1980s Remington attempt to reintroduced the Parker --

A little off topic......but, the Miller trigger is very popular today, especially in trap shooting. And the Miller release trigger is probably the most common of the release triggers. They seem pretty dependable.