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And the pattern welded tubes are Bernard 3 Iron....
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And there really shouldn't be any true Schaefer & Sohn offerings post 1893/18094 as some pipe smoker burned the place down by tossing a match into packing material???? >>Yeah according the Fire Marshall the fire was started by a match being dropped into some packing material. Would be nice to know what the names & address were on the shipping box.....<< https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=405300Serbus, Raimey rse
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>>Seems E.C. Schmidt hung out his shingle by the early 1890s and was active till at least 1912 & for the duration he was at 15 Cornhill(Washington Street????), Ward 6, Boston, Massachusetts. From the little available info, it would seem he paralleled the likes of Josef/Joseph Jakob of Philadephia being an artisian & somewhat unknown. E.C. Schmidt (Schaefer's successor in Boston - William R. Schaefer 11 Dock Square, Boston for 1862) F.G. Doell 11 Dock Square Charles H. Euterbrouk - 17 Portland W.R. Schaefer & Son, 61 Elm - owned by R.E. Denman(fire February 13th, 1894 - match dropped in packing material) all in 1889 Listing Richard Schaefer commited susicide in 1909.<< https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=405300&page=1https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=104850&page=1Serbus, Raimey rse
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>>...... my 1st thoughts were that E.C. Schmidt being an employee of Schaefer(I wonder if Richard Schaefer & E.C. Schmidt were related, brother-in-laws or something????) had access to the stockpile of Schaefer. But the addition of thet sideclips would point to later sourcing, which I'm sure had to go thru Schoverling, Daly & Gales as I don't think Schaefer had a direct line to H.A. Lindner in Suhl. Remember this was during the tariff phase. So how would it be devoid of a serial number & be sourced thru Schoverling, Daly & Gales? Boy a peek at their ledger would be most informative. ![[Linked Image from i697.photobucket.com]](http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv337/ellenbrs/lindner%20daly/1d922410-fb27-49f2-aa15-393bce9816ea_zpsg72xkhei.png) ![[Linked Image from i697.photobucket.com]](http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv337/ellenbrs/lindner%20daly/aff0ece8-f977-410d-9077-a8bca05e7159_zpsehxqw27x.png) 1883 Advert/Article<< https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=405300&page=2Serbus, Raimey rse
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https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=466043&Searchpage=1&Main=38645&Words=golcher&Search=true#Post466043\
>>Adam, Your gun was made in Birmingham!At the time that the gun was made it was a practice in Birmingham to stamp the proof marks[pre1904 black powder] on the barrels, rather than on the barrel flats when a gun was destined to be export.
Golcher was partnered with Clabrough ,they traded under the name ,Clabrough, Golcher & Co. Partnership established in 1882. Books by Lawrence P Shelton detail this relationship.
Clabrough had a significant firearms manufacturing plant in Birmingham, and major warehouse/store in San Francisco, unfortunately destroyed in the 1906 earth quake.
Your gun is pictured as a Golcher gun in the 1890 Clabrough @ Golcher catalogue, the price was $35 .by comparison their best side lock ejector was priced gun at $200......<<
Intereting tid-bit of info that I seemed to have missed: >>gun was made in Birmingham!At the time that the gun was made it was a practice in Birmingham to stamp the proof marks[pre1904 black powder] on the barrels, rather than on the barrel flats when a gun was destined to be export.<<
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Ah, posted it on the wrong thread....
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