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No teacher in his or her right of mind would want be armed in school. The liability would be off the charts. Not to mention there is never any mention of hazard pay either. No one wants to pay for it on either end.

There has been at least one district in Iowa that has permitted it to happen, but no one is dumb enough to do it as of the most recent reports.

You really ought to think it through, but that is certainly not one of your stronger points. Oh well.

I don't think you want any teachers carrying who don't volunteer to do so. I taught at two fairly rural Iowa high schools, and we had plenty of teachers who would volunteer. Back then, we even taught the DNR's Hunter Safety Course in the school.

But, you're dumb enough to boast of taking your students hunting with you? No prof in their right mind would be dumb enough to take on the optics risk or the personal liability risk of an unofficial event. I have my hopes that you thought through any risk to as reasonable extents as possible, but you do tend to make emotional, knee jerk responses.

Being a creature of a state university system, you know first hand that many liabilities are controlled by legislation, as one possible solution. On the other hand, you're a supporter of prejudicial policies and agenda selective enforcement, that you can't even tell that I didn't knee jerk advocate.

you guys are not addressing the issue...

which is how to protect school children from mass murderers while they are in school...

some options: train and arm volunteers who are on site daily, including, teachers, administrators, custodians and students...solicit members of the community to perform the functions of armed guards...

another solution, is to eliminate traditional schools, run on obsolete models...replace classroom based school facilities with on line mentoring, utilizing internet based educational tools...

make education a privilege for those over the age of 15...stop wasting school resources on the unmotivated....

and of course, there is the fear deterrent element...make it a certainty that anyone who commits murder in a school environment suffers a swift and painful public execution...utilizing ai, to create monthly, televised, simulated slow electricution, followed by drawing and quartering could be a powerful deterrent?

If you keep all metal objects out of schools and lock down the entryways, you wouldn't have to worry about training people or arming guards. If you let kids stay home all day and leave them by themselves, do you really think they will get any work done? What about the families who can't afford computers and internet services? So far my system is the best one yet.

jimmy, why punish children by denying them the use of metal objects and the restrictions of locking down entryways...

and training students and others to act as armed guards and ready militia should be seen as a privilege offered to those who would prove themselves trustworthy...and that honor and recognition would look great on a college or job app...ones grades and test scores may not be tippy top, but deeming one trustworthy enough to carry a Glock in defense of others says a lot about a persons character and their potential in this world...

as for internet based mentored home schooling...it is not for the unmotivated, the immature or the irresponsible...those who qualify would be allowed the opportunity to study and learn in a safe and techno advanced environment...others would be left behind in the existing jungle to survive or perish under the laws of nature...as for costs, public school funds would still be allocated, regardless of the techniques utilized to meet the needs of students and communities...

other alternatives and suggestions are encouraged...its not right that we continue to make children go to school every day, when they are fearful that they could be murdered while in school...

Gun free zones have become a low risk shooting venue for the bad guys. In Israel they suffered several attacks on schools until every teacher was told to bring their personal protection weapon with them to school. Going from just a couple or even none guns to a school with multiple weapons made those “semi-gun free zones” into heavily armed zones. Bad guys stopped targeting them.

I have several friends who moved to Israel at 18. They all had to serve in the military or do medic type service. Once out they remained in the reserve. One of them married a local girl who is a teacher. She takes her weapon everywhere, including shopping and to school as a teacher. She is always prepared with two clips as backup.

Gun control laws only work on those who follow the law. Just like drug laws have failed to stop our drug problems, gun control laws mean nothing for criminals. For those we just need certain prison time with repeat offenders understanding their entire life will be behind bars. No plea deals, not suspended sentences. Do the crime and due years or decades.

What metal object does a student need to take to school? Ink pens are mostly plastic. Belt buckles go through a metal detector. And school students aren't allowed to go outside and run around during hours, anyways. Especially in high school. They do in elementary maybe for recess, but we had gym class. We couldn't go outside during class hours when I was in school either. If you had to leave class to go to the rest room, you had to have a hall pass to show to the hall monitor, (who was another student). If you didn't have a hall pass, the monitor would step into a classroom and get a teacher. The only time you could be outside was after school for football, baseball and track, etc.. But the rest of the students had gone home by then. This is exactly why kids get shot. You try to make it safe for them and parents want to argue about a little discomfort. There ya go!! If a kid gets inside with a gun, he can shoot the teacher and kill everyone in the classroom. So, I don't think arming teachers will do that much good. Metal detectors and no metal objects for starters.

What would you have done without the plate in your head?

When you were a child, you probably would not have dreamed of lying, like you do now. Why, because there was corporal punishment to start off the kindergarteners with clear behavior rules and boundries, not touching themselves so they were ready for the lbg hard sell in third grade. Bad behavior was stigmatized when you were in grade school, not celebrated or protected, right? Did you and your little buddies smoke pot in secret, or were there already "legal" pot shops near schools. I bet ole grandpa jimmy would have tanned yourarse back in the day.

One district in Iowa, eh Prof?

https://www.9news.com/article/news/...536-b743e5f7-935e-4128-9b70-fc5c9e4d6bc6

What always amazes me is how often you are startlingly wrong about something you should have a clue about. School districts here have been very quietly allowing THOSE WHO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF LICENSED AND WISH TO DO SO, to do exactly that in school.

You act as if a school district would make it mandatory for all, but, that is just a sick attempt at obfuscation on your part.

The exact, same, sickness that led us to where we are with unarmed schools being the favored targets of the criminally insane. Not as criminally insane as the people who brought the “gun free” school zones, but, close.

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Ted