None of this conversation can change the fact that nineteenth and early twentieth century market hunting and pigeon shooting has deprived us from a reasonable population of game birds and waterfowl today, regardless of habitat changes. Even today, the endless populations of pigeons and doves in South America are a bit diminished in some areas, causes yet to be determined. Yes, I hunt and shoot box birds, but I have researched early practices of these sports, and there is a difference.