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Unequivocally....
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Here she is in the Kettner catalog from German hunting guns. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/6GdX8bq.jpeg) Even closer ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/0a5PXAd.png)
Last edited by Jtplumb; 08/28/24 06:40 PM.
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Yeah, Kettner's sorry tail probably sent it to A. Francotte & then had his mechanics mask the AF stamp. I would not doubt it @ all. Actually, that is more than likely the truth.
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Yeah, >>Die Verschlußhaken sind massiv mit der Läufen verbunden. << says it all....
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Merkel(any of them) & Kettner were tied @ the hip. So if Kettner was retailing an upper rung sporting weapon, it was more than likely sourced from a Merkel source; almost synonymous..... Now Kettner did have a flock of mechanics and their specialty was probably maskin'....... But almost like the Kettner - Merkel connection, Kettner and A. Francotte were very chummy..... I guess the ledger is the only way to sort it...
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Just as a side-note: This one wears the Purdey Verschluß - Purdey Nose / „Fermeture Liègeoise“ - >>Galand Nose<< and I do not think is considered a Pigeon Gun. The other has the Greener crossbolt and is advertised as a Pigeon gun/Taubenflinte. Serbus, Raimey rse
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Another stamp of interest is found atop the tubes: >> ?? Francotte - Brevete A Liège<<
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I forgot to mention that from a polling of sources, the majority points to Oskar Merkel as the culprit mechanic that Kettner sourced. Not sure of how the Kettner-Oskar Merkel - Sauer - Francotte all gets sorted.
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I noted the block letters in NITRO, but put them with the re-proof in 1938 rather than the original proof.
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Looked like Francotte stamped his on flats after original German proofs, but know way to be sure. Also horn trigger guard looks like a replacement. It’s too block like, my other kettners are the normal nice rounded looking type.
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