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Here are a couple of photos of a shotgun marked "Henry Buckley Birmingham" on the rib. It is a highly detailed gun, but I have never heard of the "maker". Does anyone know of Mr. Buckley ? Locks are rebounding.
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Obviously a very high quality gun. Mr. Buckley is not in Tate's Birmingham book. I'll check Boothroyd tonight.
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Had heard of a "Samuel Buckley" somewhere but not Henry. Very ornate gun--possible percussion conversion? Sweet skeleton btw. Looks like a lot of same-era guns I guess, Reilly for example.
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IGC shows a Henry Buckley in Birmingham, 1817 - 1825, died 1824, also Fredrick 1927 - 1929, no data on either. Samuel they show as a possible importer in the US, 1924, much too late for this gun. How would you like to try inletting that buttplate?
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Samuel Buckley was one of the officers in British Small Arms Co. in Birmingham. Have not seen a Henry! Interesting gun!
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A number of years ago I owned a high grade double hammer, engraved on the locks, "Samuel Buckley". The top rib was engraved," John E.Long Detroit." The gun serial # was 5709.The action of the gun incorporated the William powell patent #1163 of 1864,which is their lift-up lever, snap action. As a follow-up, whilst in Birmingham ,I visited Powell,s who confirmed it was 1 of 5 guns made For Samuel Buckley and Co; of Detroit.If your gun has a serial number that is close to 5709 its origin may also be Powell,s! Buckley is a name that is record as being active In the Birmingham trade. It is possible that the Buckleys emmigrated to Detroit and that H.Buckley was a partner in the firm of Samuel Buckley & Co;?
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A number of years ago I owned a high grade double hammer, engraved on the locks, "Samuel Buckley". The top rib was engraved," John E.Long Detroit." The gun serial # was 5709.The action of the gun incorporated the William powell patent #1163 of 1864,which is their lift-up lever, snap action. As a follow-up, whilst in Birmingham ,I visited Powell,s who confirmed it was 1 of 5 guns made For Samuel Buckley and Co; of Detroit.If your gun has a serial number that is close to 5709 its origin may also be Powell,s! Buckley is a name that is record as being active In the Birmingham trade. It is possible that the Buckleys emmigrated to Detroit and that H.Buckley was a partner in the firm of Samuel Buckley & Co;?
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Thanks everyone. The gun has no serial numbers anywhere. I am showing two more photos . One of the lock [unnamed] and one of the barrels and how their sculpturing ties into the receiver. Of course, the Jones underlever seems current with the rebounding lock era [later 1860s] I don't know if the proofs tell anything.
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I hope Bill McPhail or similar persons familiar with some of the earlier American guns sees this. He has one with fence treatment similar to this--I think Patrick Mullen based on a W & C Scott action as I recall from the 1860s.
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