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Thanks Doug,
The other questions need no answer...I'll bow out here, taking your advice with me...

I think we have some esteemed members with a chip on the shoulder, and some willing to knock off said chip.

If you would take the time to read you will see Revdocdrew poked a joke at me on the previous page...so I poked one back...

Get over it.

jOe: if you've figered out a way to get your pup to generate finished Stub Twist barrels please share your feeding regimen!

I'll see what I can do...

Brian - back to your thread. I was cheated by a Gunsmith a few years back, along with about 200 other folks. The Gunsmith used threats of Libel and Slander suits to attempt to keep others that had work with him from posting anything negative about him.

This technique, along with being cahoots with quite a few Board Moderators kept his scam going for years. This yahoo was in no way connected with double guns, or any board that they are the primary subject of. The thief went by the name Gary Gucciano, a websearch will turn up the information, if you are curous about it.

In your case, if it is truly not a misunderstanding, or personal grudge, I would post a summary of the events, and hold the emails in reserve, for use in court or with the State AG. Excerps would be OK, IMO.

The first questions I would ask are how were all communications made? If the emails are supplemented by telephone calls or the like, and do not present the whole story, I would hesitate to post them. In general, posting actual emails may present some issues in and of themselves depending upon the expectations of the parties; you publicize them at your own risk. Remember also, that once these items are on the internet, you are no longer in control of what is done with them. Legal charges are only one aspect of how this can come back to bite the poster.

Second, what remedies have been sought? If the dealer (or gunsmith or whomever) failed to reach an accomodation, did you try other methods? Sometimes that may be indicated before posting on the web. Threads over the years mostly show that there are two sides, usually irate, to every story.

The best advice given here has been to try to settle matters privately before the situation spins out of control.

If the matter is already beyond resolution, I'd go with Postoak's recommendations keeping in mind that there will be incoming after you present your side.

There's a need and time, even a responsibility, to publicize bad dealing; otherwise we are corrupted by the process. I find a lot of complaints tedious in the way they are presented here, more as cases of special pleading than information.

For purposes valued here, I think it's enough to describe a transaction concerning a gun or services: what you thought you bought and what you got and briefly your disappointment with the way the seller handled it.

I-said, he-said, he lied, I Sir Galahad are unnecessary. The reason for posting is to provide a heads-up for members. I opened a box of new Champion aircraft spark plugs without electrodes; the company apologized and replaced them. Enough.

If Champion or distributer sought a different remedy, I would have described it in briefest terms without imputing motives. It's plain-old consumer advocacy. A citizen's responsibility. Libel, slander, defamation should not enter into it.