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I would have thought so. With pattern welded tubes and that type finish, touchmarks just do not survive. I think that is why the 2 marks were on the flats. I have often wondered why the flats were chosen as the palette for marks?

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

I just wanted to point out to the few following along the bona fide 2 Hammer forge & when they said >>2 Hammers<< they meant 2 Hammers....

I would really like to see a foto ofPhillip Poschinger's Rohrhammerwerk mit 4 Hammerschlägen or 4 Hammers....




When I can open up a widow of time, & it needs to be soon, my Great Great Grandfather Ellenburg designed & oversaw construction of a Grist & Saw Mill deep in what is now Bankhead National Forest and I would like to Survey it & draw up the design. I know from relatives long gone that it had a 26' diameter overshot wheel. Co Editor of Dietrich Apel's Website, Karsten Eden(Head Geologist of Alaska) attended University in Germany where the technology was developed many, many Moons ago & he has offered to assist me. The tall stone pillars for the wooden water flume are still in place.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Oberschlächtiges Wasserrad - Overshot Waterwheel

It looks to have been similar to the above but with timbers to support the Gear & Overshot Wheel(26'). I have found 1/4 of the Gear and the timbers and hand hewn slots in the rockbed for the support & wooden water flume are of course still present.

Demand quickly outpaced the natural flow of the water & the mill was moved up closer to a Road & coined the Grayson Sawmill in Moreland, Alabama.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

At any rate, to tie this back together, and even considering some advancements in the Hammers, etc. but could you believe that rudimentary mechanical device such as the hammers could result in such a Lovely set of tubes???



Serbus,

Raimey
rse

I’ve enjoyed following this thread, and I appreciate everyone who’s contributed to it. I had very little understanding of how Damascus barrels were made. This has been super enlightening. Raimey, I grew up near Huntsville, Alabama, and spent some days of my youth roaming around Bankhead National Forest. It’s really interesting to learn about your great great grandfather’s connection with the mill there. Thank you for sharing so much with us!

Pretty darn amazing. I sure hope the pits all hone out. Has .130 thickness in front of forcing cone and .080 6” .060 9” out. I don’t really want to use the 16ga to 28g tubes but I will just to be able to shoot with these gorgeous barrels. No dents or gouges. I like it!

Just to give you an idea of where these machines were using the True Force of Nature to practice their craft....



My youngest son Benjamin, who was named after the son of the designer of this mill(Samuel D. Elenburg)



I believe the Gear was fastened to a Wooden Wheel??

Much Work to be done to reverse engineer it, but I plan to accomplish it. Now don't think I am going to make pattern welded tubes.....

Too, my family owned the property before it was sold back to the Government to make Bankhead National Forest. Yes we do have several Copper Pot Stills stashed here & there of which I am searching.....

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

From Jan Brueghel "Venus in the Forge of Vulcan" c. 1610



Liege c. 1900

Great >>Mini-Hammers<< or those suited for tube making..

My Project was originally completed right after the War of Northern Agression(Civil War) where these folk were on the side of the Aggressor(North).




Just to keep me inline, depending on how you arranged this billet determines the outcome/pattern.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

This thread prompted me to watch this video on YouTube. Fascinating process!