Originally Posted by Lloyd3
…..If somebody is competent with a .410 (as you clearly are) then more power to them. I'm not saying you shouldn't….

I am far from competent with a 410, but as far as I’m concerned the energy for individual pellets in say #8 skeet loads is the same. The 12 will fill out a pattern better, but using a 410 can be as simple as not shooting beyond some reference point out in the field. Close in doves skimming over low tree tops or tight bobwhites behind a pointer are big fun factor. I think there are more abuses of reasonable hunting range with three inch twelves, than the subguages?