The fiber wads sold by BP and Precision are from Circle Fly. The other wads mentioned from BP are what they call waxed hard cards. These wads work very well. I use them in my 16ga loads and people don't believe that I am using fiber wads because there is no confetti in the air. The fiber wads in the Hull and Gamebore cartridges are similar to the waxed hard card wads.

Byron