Distance is not an issue for me when I hunt Blue Grouse, less than an ounce of shot is plenty for those fragile birds. I can never recall needing or wanting more payload when after grouse, the limiting factor is usually the foliage and terran, not distance. Blues are small as well, if you want to eat them you can't put too much shot into them.
I shoot clays very informally and for fun not scores, how far out I can break one is more a factor of choke, not that much in my Holland, light mod in the left barrel. If I was serious about breaking clays and scores I would not be shooting an open choked SxS in the game, it is what I have so it is what I use.
Last edited by SKB; 03/19/24 09:17 AM.