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This isn’t the greatest picture, but I do use it for KS pheasants. It weighs 5 lbs 8 3/4 ozs. It has 27” barrels and matches the record; most of the H&H 2” guns had 28”.



This is a picture of the 2” twelve compared to the sixteen. The 2” gun is on top.



Ken

Incredibly nice guns, both of them.

I'm not quite bold enough to use mine for pheasants.

There are some really nice guns coming out of the woodwork here now. You know they exist but you seldom see them. That MacPherson 2-inch has likely crossed my path earlier. I believe it came through our shop about 10-years ago, or so, and I got to fondle it properly while I measured it for listing and... it is/was pretty exceptional (it has to be that gun, how many MacPherson 2-inch guns are floating around that look like that?). It did cause a minor stir though, because it measured under 20 thousand in a couple of places, causing Mark to have second thoughts. I'm not sure what the resolution of all that was. We were pretty set on a 20k minimum in those days, for any gun. Since that time I've come to understand that many 2-inch guns were made with deliberately thin tubes and that some were as thin as 14k. I have even seen guns passing proof for a Holt's auction with 18k tubes ( a while back now). The bedrock of the issue for me is that you don't hear about any 2-inch guns bursting (at least I haven't yet, although that 2-inch gun with the chambers extended [that was mentioned here earlier by Brent] would seem to be a good candidate).

Also, as far as big tubes on small frames looking unattractive, that has not been my experience either. I find them strangely alluring actually.

Does anyone know the whereabouts of 2" H & H serisl no. 34052 ?

I do like your 16 bore, a good deal on that one I think.

"I find them strangely alluring actually."

sorta like large breast on skinny birds?

The short answer is no, but I think I saw an H&H on Westley Richards' website and maybe another on Dismal River, both during the middle of last year at some point.

WR site still shows a single H&H Royal and a pair of Royal 2” guns. They’ve been there a long time.

https://www.westleyrichards.com/usedguns/view/shotguns/1686076436-holland-12g-twelve-two-/

https://www.westleyrichards.com/usedguns/view/shotguns/1659553857-holland-12-ga-2-inch-/


Ken

They are beautiful guns, but at those prices, I suspect they will have them for a while longer yet. The first one is a bit chubby, but I'd not throw it out of bed.

Holt’s sold a pair for £15k plus fees in March 2018. https://www.holtsauctioneers.com/as...+1300+&refno=++123856&saletype=. Someone bought them in Dec 2017 and resold them at the next auction..

Ken