Originally Posted by canvasback
Originally Posted by mc
If we don't get more involved use social media get a cohesive message we will all suffer the failure.

Hopefully the Supreme Court will rule correctly on Monday.

And one thing you guys may want to take a second look at is the USSC ruling that unleashed the SuperPACS. Calling limits on election spending "free speech" is insane and has contributed mightily to the chaotic, billionaire dominated, two out of four years spent raising money, election system.

I'll let you in on a little secret. Conservatives contribute to the parties and candidates of their choice. Liberals don't. Liberals depend on deep pocketed donors. The more election spending limits in place, the more the Right has an inherent advantage over the Left.

We cut out corporate donations, union donations, personal donations over $2000. The parties up here are funded by average taxpayers. And the Right typically raises 3x to 4x the money the Left does. It was one of the last things the previous centre right government did before it left office and our current Blackface wearing Turd took over. It was a brilliant tactical move by the right.

been following this (with guarded interest)....and trying to keep my mouth shut. but, james' observations regarding money are enough bait to draw me in....i will suggest a new metric - $$$.

follow the money...the money never lies...the money always tells the truth, because it has nothing to hide. but, the people who love the money ALWAYS have something to hide....the bible verse most likely to be misunderstood is the one that says....money is the root of all evil. when what it actually says, is that the LOVE of money is the root of all evil.

i will suggest that most of what you guys are circling around, hiding behind and sniping at each other, are actually the social distortions that result from the economic changes we are witnessing in these times. globalization, "free" trade, the abandonment of traditional industries and agricultural policies, the mass movements of huge numbers of human beings fleeing from political and economic turmoil. none of these things are happening in a vacuum....in some respects we are moving back to the era of the "robber barons" - another time when too few people controlled too much power.

"politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other."
oscar ameringer

both of the political parties represent special interests - the democrats represent the have nots....and the republicans represent the haves (or as bush 43 said - we have both groups - the haves and the have mores). read up on your history....every time the economic equations get too far out of balance, there is one sure and certain result - revolution. pay attention to the big picture, it's awfully easy to get distracted by the details....a whole bunch of what you guys are talking about, are the rumblings of a coming earthquake.

best regards,

tom


"it's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards."
lewis carroll, Alice in Wonderland