Originally Posted by canvasback
....Craig asked for examples where activists had been actively suppressed by the state. And at that time there was a clear delineation between Washington Liberals and Southern Democrats.

Once more, you guys mix up party politics with social and cultural activism. Exactly what I am trying to bring to your attention....
Let's try it this way? Just because it's repeated, doesn't make it truth?

I can see and understand your examples, but I was hoping for examples that reflect the realities of today. I hope you can also see that the examples you came up with do not support what you are trying to bring to attention. I don't mind, it came across to me as a tit for tat response, and didn't really move the needle towards you theory. I saw politics and activism are necessarily intertwined, you say they are distinct and one requires the other in sequence. But, the examples and discussions you have are highly political?

Today, there are extremely high delineations between traditional democrats and progressives, but they always vote en masse. Emphasis on today. President Trump was an activist on social media, which won him an election, but also got him banned from the platform with retaliatory prosecutions and intimidation of most of his advisors, as well as himself.