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Great video Lloyd!!
One thing that didn't get covered in detail was how the reintroduction issue got on the ballot in the first place. This wasn't done through the legislative process or pushed by CPW. This was done through the referendum process where an activist group jumped through the hoops of gathering enough signatures to get it on the ballot. Similar groups are now trying to get other issues on the ballot like eliminating mountain lion hunting in the same manner. The same type of thing is playing out in many states across the country. These activists have learned that its easier & more cost effective to get their agenda passed into law this way than to go through all of the studies & legal drama associated with the normal procedures.
We've now learned after the fact that the wolfs introduced here from Oregon were problem wolfs already which where preying on livestock in their home range. CPW was mandated by the wording in the ballot to complete the first introductions by a certain date & because state after state refused to let Colorado have any wolfs, CPW was desperate to find some to fill their obligations, so when these problem children became available CPW jumped right on them.
The video was correct in that this passed by the slimmest of margins by only a few hundred votes and the blue island voters of the front range are the ones who screwed over all of these ranchers, hunters & wildlife management professionals. Some day in the future many of these same people will be asking (Where has all the Elk-Deer & other wildlife gone)
Wildlife management by referendum is a terrible idea and it should be made illegal to get issues like this on the ballot in the first place! This is just another item that has guys like myself & Lloyd bemoaning the fact of what our beloved state has become. One thing the Left (I'm using that term in the broadest possible sense) is very good at is activism. Something the Right could learn from. Literally everything we typically decry here has it's origins not in a broad popular groundswell but is the result of decades of concerted effort by a very small number of activists. Suggesting MORE government legislation is probably not the answer. Long term the answer is clear......learn from the Left, get organized, get active and make the case for the things we believe in. Not because it's an election year. But because it's part of your lifestyle. These are generational battles that require decades of comiited activism. Until we start to do that, the Left will keep winning the battles. The Right is very often too busy earning a living. That isn't really compatible with extremist activism. There were trucks feeding the BLM activists that burned down the precinct in Minneapolis. Best, Ted
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Great video Lloyd!!
One thing that didn't get covered in detail was how the reintroduction issue got on the ballot in the first place. This wasn't done through the legislative process or pushed by CPW. This was done through the referendum process where an activist group jumped through the hoops of gathering enough signatures to get it on the ballot. Similar groups are now trying to get other issues on the ballot like eliminating mountain lion hunting in the same manner. The same type of thing is playing out in many states across the country. These activists have learned that its easier & more cost effective to get their agenda passed into law this way than to go through all of the studies & legal drama associated with the normal procedures.
We've now learned after the fact that the wolfs introduced here from Oregon were problem wolfs already which where preying on livestock in their home range. CPW was mandated by the wording in the ballot to complete the first introductions by a certain date & because state after state refused to let Colorado have any wolfs, CPW was desperate to find some to fill their obligations, so when these problem children became available CPW jumped right on them.
The video was correct in that this passed by the slimmest of margins by only a few hundred votes and the blue island voters of the front range are the ones who screwed over all of these ranchers, hunters & wildlife management professionals. Some day in the future many of these same people will be asking (Where has all the Elk-Deer & other wildlife gone)
Wildlife management by referendum is a terrible idea and it should be made illegal to get issues like this on the ballot in the first place! This is just another item that has guys like myself & Lloyd bemoaning the fact of what our beloved state has become. One thing the Left (I'm using that term in the broadest possible sense) is very good at is activism. Something the Right could learn from. Literally everything we typically decry here has it's origins not in a broad popular groundswell but is the result of decades of concerted effort by a very small number of activists. Suggesting MORE government legislation is probably not the answer. Long term the answer is clear......learn from the Left, get organized, get active and make the case for the things we believe in. Not because it's an election year. But because it's part of your lifestyle. These are generational battles that require decades of comiited activism. Until we start to do that, the Left will keep winning the battles. The Right is very often too busy earning a living. That isn't really compatible with extremist activism. There were trucks feeding the BLM activists that burned down the precinct in Minneapolis. Best, Ted Another laughable Tedism. Guess you feel 6 January Insurection was all a false flag or a hoax, eh.
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Another laughable Tedism. Guess you feel 6 January Insurection was all a false flag or a hoax, eh. It is very laughable to see the Nutty Professor regurgitating Fake News about the Jan. 6, 2021 protest. But what would you expect from a Liberal Left College Professor who can't even spell Insurrection? Notably, there was no one charged or convicted of engaging in Insurrection on Jan.6th. The F.B.I. Director Christopher Wray refuses to divulge to Congress the number of embedded F.B.I. Agents or Operatives who were in the crowd. He would not deny, under Oath, that there were agents in the crowd. They waited nearly 3 years to charge Ray Epps with a mere misdemeanor after he is seen on video inciting people to go into the building. They sentenced him to probation and 100 hours of Community Service, while others who were not nearly as involved are sitting in jail without bail. Nothing to see here. The House Unselect Committee refused to release videotape evidence showing D.C. Capitol Police ushering protesters into the Capitol Building, acting like Tour Guides instead of Police refusing some unlawful entry. The Lying Democrats cried like babies when the new Republican House Speaker released it. Insurrections tend to be armed conflicts. Yet none of these gun owning Conservatives bothered to bring their guns. Even the crooked Attorney General Merrick Garland has lied about police officers being killed on Jan. 6th. None were killed, but regrettably, some were injured. Far fewer were injured than in the 2020 Antifa and BLM riots, where nobody was charged, and damages and injuries were far greater. The only person killed on Jan. 6th was an unarmed protester named Ashley Babbit. She was shot in the neck by a rogue D.C. Capitol Police Officer when she was in a completely non-threatening position. If they did that to a black female, Washington D.C. would have been looted and burned... and Libtards like the Nutty Professor would have excused it.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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It wasn't an insurrection,it wasn't even a good riot minneapolis ,was a good riot Portland, was an insurrection burned down police station and court house and displaced city government.also held the mayor hostage in his condo.
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Ted, I'm just saying how to combat it effectively. Not easily.
What I described is WHY the Left has made such progress during our lifetimes. We can make excuses about why they can do it and why we can't (jobs etc) but that's what is going on.
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The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Great video Lloyd!!
One thing that didn't get covered in detail was how the reintroduction issue got on the ballot in the first place. This wasn't done through the legislative process or pushed by CPW. This was done through the referendum process where an activist group jumped through the hoops of gathering enough signatures to get it on the ballot. Similar groups are now trying to get other issues on the ballot like eliminating mountain lion hunting in the same manner. The same type of thing is playing out in many states across the country. These activists have learned that its easier & more cost effective to get their agenda passed into law this way than to go through all of the studies & legal drama associated with the normal procedures.
We've now learned after the fact that the wolfs introduced here from Oregon were problem wolfs already which where preying on livestock in their home range. CPW was mandated by the wording in the ballot to complete the first introductions by a certain date & because state after state refused to let Colorado have any wolfs, CPW was desperate to find some to fill their obligations, so when these problem children became available CPW jumped right on them.
The video was correct in that this passed by the slimmest of margins by only a few hundred votes and the blue island voters of the front range are the ones who screwed over all of these ranchers, hunters & wildlife management professionals. Some day in the future many of these same people will be asking (Where has all the Elk-Deer & other wildlife gone)
Wildlife management by referendum is a terrible idea and it should be made illegal to get issues like this on the ballot in the first place! This is just another item that has guys like myself & Lloyd bemoaning the fact of what our beloved state has become. One thing the Left (I'm using that term in the broadest possible sense) is very good at is activism. Something the Right could learn from. Literally everything we typically decry here has it's origins not in a broad popular groundswell but is the result of decades of concerted effort by a very small number of activists. Suggesting MORE government legislation is probably not the answer. Long term the answer is clear......learn from the Left, get organized, get active and make the case for the things we believe in. Not because it's an election year. But because it's part of your lifestyle. These are generational battles that require decades of comiited activism. Until we start to do that, the Left will keep winning the battles. The Right is very often too busy earning a living. That isn't really compatible with extremist activism. There were trucks feeding the BLM activists that burned down the precinct in Minneapolis. Best, Ted Another laughable Tedism. Guess you feel 6 January Insurection was all a false flag or a hoax, eh. Brent, do you really think that if it was a real insurrection, all those gun toting Right wing guys wouldn't bring their guns? As an outsider looking it, it's clear that nothing went on Jan 6 that was materially different than the BLM riots. And the BLM riots were wildly more violent and destructive.
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The Right is very often too busy earning a living. That isn't really compatible with extremist activism. There were trucks feeding the BLM activists that burned down the precinct in Minneapolis.
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Ted You are making my point for me. I guess the Left was well organized for those BLM riots.
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Great video Lloyd!!
One thing that didn't get covered in detail was how the reintroduction issue got on the ballot in the first place. This wasn't done through the legislative process or pushed by CPW. This was done through the referendum process where an activist group jumped through the hoops of gathering enough signatures to get it on the ballot. Similar groups are now trying to get other issues on the ballot like eliminating mountain lion hunting in the same manner. The same type of thing is playing out in many states across the country. These activists have learned that its easier & more cost effective to get their agenda passed into law this way than to go through all of the studies & legal drama associated with the normal procedures.
We've now learned after the fact that the wolfs introduced here from Oregon were problem wolfs already which where preying on livestock in their home range. CPW was mandated by the wording in the ballot to complete the first introductions by a certain date & because state after state refused to let Colorado have any wolfs, CPW was desperate to find some to fill their obligations, so when these problem children became available CPW jumped right on them.
The video was correct in that this passed by the slimmest of margins by only a few hundred votes and the blue island voters of the front range are the ones who screwed over all of these ranchers, hunters & wildlife management professionals. Some day in the future many of these same people will be asking (Where has all the Elk-Deer & other wildlife gone)
Wildlife management by referendum is a terrible idea and it should be made illegal to get issues like this on the ballot in the first place! This is just another item that has guys like myself & Lloyd bemoaning the fact of what our beloved state has become. One thing the Left (I'm using that term in the broadest possible sense) is very good at is activism. Something the Right could learn from. Literally everything we typically decry here has it's origins not in a broad popular groundswell but is the result of decades of concerted effort by a very small number of activists. Suggesting MORE government legislation is probably not the answer. Long term the answer is clear......learn from the Left, get organized, get active and make the case for the things we believe in. Not because it's an election year. But because it's part of your lifestyle. These are generational battles that require decades of comiited activism. Until we start to do that, the Left will keep winning the battles. The Right is very often too busy earning a living. That isn't really compatible with extremist activism. There were trucks feeding the BLM activists that burned down the precinct in Minneapolis. Best, Ted Another laughable Tedism. Guess you feel 6 January Insurection was all a false flag or a hoax, eh. I feel the deplorable state of education in the US is primarily due to educators like you. Another Tedism for ‘ya. Laugh at your own risk, Prof. Best, Ted
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....One thing the Left (I'm using that term in the broadest possible sense) is very good at is activism. Something the Right could learn from. Literally everything we typically decry here has it's origins not in a broad popular groundswell but is the result of decades of concerted effort by a very small number of activists. Suggesting MORE government legislation is probably not the answer. Long term the answer is clear......learn from the Left, get organized, get active and make the case for the things we believe in. Not because it's an election year. But because it's part of your lifestyle. These are generational battles that require decades of comiited activism. Until we start to do that, the Left will keep winning the battles. I think it's a bit different. There are a very small few, who can fund the activism of their choosing. Ask any prof, students of the left are lazy, unless there's a stipend involved.
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....I feel the deplorable state of education in the US is primarily due to educators like you.
Another Tedism for ‘ya. Laugh at your own risk, Prof.
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Ted Careful, prof might pull a pronoun on you.
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