Originally Posted by Tim in PA
You know, I realize nothing myself, or anyone else here can say will change your mind. I was trying to come up with something that would at least make you think a little bit and consider an opposing position. I could point out graphs, like Al Gores, that while maybe accurate, are misleading. I could show you evidence of far warmer climate in holocene history, but I realize again, you would just ignore it.

Your polar bear argument is a good example. The "experts" claimed the bears would go extinct. Instead of going extinct, the population has risen. How do you explain that? Easy, you nonchalantly dismiss it by saying the "experts" didn't know what they were talking about. Great defense, think about that.

Mark Twain said it is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they've been fooled.

The problem with this whole climate change trainwreck is that you have multiple large pieces at play, all pushing us into a disastrous, non weather related future, by advancing this narrative.

Countries, think China, that stand to gain a great deal of wealth, power and influence.
Politicians and bureaucrats, think EU and WEF, that stand to gain a great deal of control, power and wealth.
Scientists, too arrogant and self-consumed to admit they don't know everything, or maybe just activist, that stand to gain in their careers and influence.
And then you have the everyday tools, the "useful idiots" who need some cause to believe in, and will cheerfully supply the rope to the above mentioned parties to hang them with.

I was reading the, Big Three, sporting magazines back in the 70's through the 90's. They started environmental columns and articles back then, preaching gloom and doom. I doubt if 1% of their predictions ever came to pass. That's how it works. People politically inclined to the left have the memories of a flea. Some "scientist" says the world will starve to death in the year 2000 and the believers all run around with their hair on fire. 2000 comes and goes, everyone's fat, and the believers forget. And then someone says Tuvalu will be swallowed up by a rising Pacific in 3 years, and everyone's hair is on fire again. 3 years later Tuvalu has grown in land mass and the fleas move on to the next existential crisis. So it goes. I guess just keep your eyes closed and enjoy your crusade.
Well, you can dispute all you want but you aren't disagreeing with me. You are disputing every country in the world that is changing there lifestyle, every auto manufacturer in the world who is focusing on more efficient vehicles. Every appliance manufacturer who is focusing on more efficient appliances to reduce global warming. Factories who are reducing CO2 pollutant levels that used to bellow smoke and pollutants into the atmosphere. NASA, who is helping show people the effects through photography of the earth. Millions of scientific weather experts and meteorologists. So, when people on this website who have recently been effected by floods, hurricanes, tornadoes and other similar catastrophes due to global warming, like people suggested, maybe YOU can open your wallet and contribute a few bucks to THEM. I'm sure they would appreciate it. That way you can explain to them earth's temperature isn't increasing and causing disasters. Tell THEM that higher temperatures doesn't increase the strength of hurricanes. Don't tell me. I'm like Al Gore (who really didn't invent the internet). I'm just the messenger. And while you are at it, explain how the facts that AL Gore and scientists warned you about decades ago, have become a reality. And like someone mentioned, over the years things CAN change for the better. That doesn't mean that what they predicted back 20 years ago were lies to hurt people. Oh, and one final thing- you might want to explain why insurance companies like Allstate, in places such as Florida, are cancelling people's homeowner's policies because they live too close (within two miles) to the ocean. They must believe something is on the horizan. Good luck and good shooting.