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Because of the relationship between Ideal and Robust - in particular the "Robust-Ideal". . .and because this is one of the most educational BBS lines with contributors who were extremely knowledgeable (some who have chosen not to post anymore ), I'm going to bump this. In particular the reference to Ideal SN's and their decline immediately prior to WWII may effect the dating chart for Robusts.
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This one brings back some nice memories Gene. Wingshooter (Mike) is no longer with us and he could get anyone excited about Ideals.
Had a couple exchanges with Martin Godio last year and have revised what I think the correct model designation of my gun is…..which is 7RE-P. One nugget from Martin on model destinations was that (particularly in the higher grade guns) to accurately identify it if it doesn’t have a designation stamped on it, you must find a catalogue from the year it was produced.
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There was an Ace of Spades 16 gauge in the Holts auction about 4 years ago. Gorgeous gun. Although mine ain't half bad. It'll do.
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This question might help solve the 4 digit SN's on the Robust-Ideals with a trigger-plate ideal underlever. The "Ace of Spades" gun is advertised as SN 4538 and the number appears on the action and the barrel flats. Yet 74229 appears on the barrels which matches the dating chart of Ideals previously published. Could someone elucidate please. Thanks.
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i would say that adds considerable weight to the theory that robust-ideals are serial numbered in a separate series from either robusts, or ideals....i suppose that is logical - each of the three guns follows a distinct design pattern.
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tom
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Salut, Magnifique fusil ! Par contre cette arme n'a pas été fabriquée en 1937, mais en 1952. Son numéro de série est l'avant-dernier sur le registre. Cliquez sur la photo pour l'agrandir. Manufrance avait une numérotation spécifique à chaque modèle.
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Merci Fab, un bon explication. Ca marche. Gene.
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Sorry, I was missing a bit of the question I think, having read Greybeard's comment.
Manufrance use different serial number sequence for each model until theY amalgamated everything after WWII.
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Bon, mais d’où vient le nombre 4538 ? Qu'est-ce que cela signifie ? Merci
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