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![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/t0aFAT5.jpg) Safety off. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/wMY3otW.jpg) Safety on.
Last edited by Parabola; 01/01/24 03:06 PM.
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Suger tong purdey used them I'm sure others too. I have made some
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Thanks mc.
It is on my Birmingham made (1943 to 1949 ?) W.C. Carswell SLE. I was hoping that it might be sufficiently distinctive to provide a clue as to the action maker.
I can be fairly sure it was not Purdey.
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Post pictures
Mabey some one can help you figure it out.mark
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Thanks Mark ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/DIwDGva.jpg) Not a very good picture but someone might recognise the style. 27 inch chopper lump barrels.
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Fairly common type of spring on safeties .Used on box and side locks .
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I like the fence engraving looks like a nice gun was it made in Liverpool?
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Does this constitute a "dicky-bird" type of safety?
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It has a bar on the safe so it might just block the triggers pretty simple device
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Lloyd,
No the “dicky bird” safety has a centrally pivoted rocking lever Lee a bird pecking with head down and tail (to engage the safety catch) up.
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Mark,
It has Birmingham Proof marks so it was probably made in Birmingham, although as Liverpool never had a Proof House that is not entirely conclusive.
The carving is not dissimilar to guns made by William Ford in Birmingham.
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I had read carswell purchased at least two other gun maker?so could his shop made the gun and had it Birmingham proofed ?
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Yes, E. & G. Higham and Hooton and Jones, but Carswell acquired them during or after the First World War when the gun trade was declining he may have just bought the goodwill and the rights to the names rather than acquiring premises or any workshops.
I don’t know enough about the Liverpool gun trade to have any idea as to what extent (if at all) guns were made in Liverpool.
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It would seem that a big port city would have gun makers .did w Richards make there own guns?
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Hooten was owned by w Richards after 1924 so it was probably in name only with carswell buying it.
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