Hoping to get to the range tomorrow in between errands. Have loaded up patched 170gr .358"s. The measure .363"...still undersized but at least for once the patches are perfect. I'm trying an excel template suggested by Capt Curl on another BBS, using 9lb onion skin paper from Buffalo Arms. These are at least the nicest looking patched bullets I've managed to date. Fingers crossed. I plan on patching more after I get back from hunting where I'm giving 3 wraps of paper instead of 2. That should take them up to .365", which should also work in my 9.3x72r German boxlock double.