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An entry level gun to me is usually one that is the lowest grade boxlock offered by a manufacture but not all manufactures offere entry level guns.
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For a gun that won't break the bank account, how could you possibly go wrong with a Nitro Special. I have three. Oldest is 84 years, then an 80 year old, then one made in the late forties. None of them has ever given me a bit of trouble, and all of them handle better than most hardware store guns. Buy one. You'll love it. Chopper
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If you want a meaning of a word, why not look it up? "Entry lever" is just a marketing euphemism for "cheap". Fortunatly, the question of "what is a good gun" is too complex to be solved only by the price. I think I still have a clipping from a local paper, dating 1992. It reads: "For sale - a shorgun with two barrels, by English firm Purdey, with hammers, damascus steel, in good condition OR SWAP FOR A PUMP 12 GAUGE SHOTGUN" Would'a been a nice entry-level piece, what? 
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For a gun that won't break the bank account, how could you possibly go wrong with a Nitro Special. I have three. Oldest is 84 years, then an 80 year old, then one made in the late forties. None of them has ever given me a bit of trouble, and all of them handle better than most hardware store guns. Buy one. You'll love it. Chopper My prejudices are well known... I couldn't agree more! I shoot Nitros, in several guages, more than any other (except for a DS Lefever in 16 ga). Never a problem snd they handle and perform well!
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My son lives in Virginia, and I'm in Illinois. He uses my Parker Bros Trojan 12-bore when he comes home for pheasants; it's the 90% gun in my book. While at the Vintagers last month I ran across a similiar Trojan s/n 194xxx circa 1918 that got rusty in storage--a closet gun--mechanically sound and little used, but with barrels nicely redone, case colors removed incident to removing rust on the action and some residual pitting on the bolsters. Meanwhile, the wood retains about 90% of its original finish, and the screws are near perfect. A real gem in the rough, an entry level Parker with 28-inch barrels that measure M/Right--F/Left, patterns about as good as you could want, and has improved my son's scores at trap. Price $850. Now Ed Jr can dedicate his 870 to those tiny VA deer and enjoy the retro-ambiance of a decent SxS, as I did in 1974 when I bought my first Parker, a Trojan 20-bore for $900. EDM
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My prejudices are well known... I couldn't agree more! I shoot Nitros, in several guages, more than any other (except for a DS Lefever in 16 ga). Never a problem snd they handle and perform well! Roy: Referring to your 2004 Auction Survey on this site, I have crunched some of your data and used the analysis in my new book, Parker Guns: Shooting Flying and the American Experience (Collector Books of Paducah KY, scheduled for release summer 2008). According to my Chart 3 in Chapter 43--"What Are Your Chances"--which deals with the statistical probibility of finding a nice SxS in the collector marker, the following $$$ denomanated numbers might be of interest: 104 Parkers of all grades and condition averaged $4,382; 47 Foxes @ $2,361; 101 L.C.Smiths @ $1,274; 49 Ithacas @ $646; 45 Lefever Co's @ 777; 63 Nitro Specials @ 477; 3 D.M.Lefevers @ $2,323; 15 Colts @ $2,061;and 10 Remingtons @ $767. As to entry level shooters, 16 Parker Trojans with a range of $345 to $5,750 averaged $1,333, while 36 VH(E)s $250 to $17,250 averaged $3,378. 32 Fox Sterlingworths $352 to $2,026 averaged $947. The 63 Nitro Specials at $477 average and ranging from $165 to $1,393 seem to be the bargain guns at point of purchase, but, of course, are worth less when it's time to sell. Two caveats: Figures lie and liars figure and Lake Michigan averages 4 feet deep...don't drown in the averages. EDM
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Entry Shotgun? Ding Dong! Avon calling  
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Forchristsake, Bruce, you didn't spend that much time with me.I know I'm mad.
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So we have something else in common, besides good looks and a perversion for Japanese O/Us.
And somehow my name and my brother's got mixed up. I'm Brent, the taller one is Bruce. No worries, I've been answering to Bruce, and worse, for a long time.
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I didn't read the whole thread but offer the best advice, unless it has already been offered.
A FOX STEARLINGWORTH @ $600 +/- $100 IN SOLID CONDITION.
You will have a feel for a truely "fine" double and won't be tempted to be satisfied with the millions of lesser quality doubles that are out there.
Trust me, you won't be sorry.
If it has to much drop, glue something to the comb.
An addiction awaits you.
happy shooting
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