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Anyone know or heard of this maker? Would Brevete Depose be patent pending? French guns seem to be an enigma.

It's more like a registered trademark. From the top lever, the gun looks to be one based on the Helice action, which was invented by Verney-Carron. Once the patent expired, other makers copied the action. Verney-Carron registered several names, and 2 or 3 of them included the word "Helice". But other makers also used some form of the name Helice on their guns. This looks to be one that copied the action but didn't use the name. Looks like this one may have based the name they use on the French word "solide". Same as in English. And the Helice action was indeed solid.

I agree as it has the proverbial V-C Stop and >>SOLYD<< is just a trademark.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

The floor plate is marked Vertiable Hammerless.

The key to identifying the difference between a VC "Helice" top-lever action (note: VC never copywrited the word "Helice") and ones simply labeled "Helice" is on the top lever. VC reversed the screw shaft joining the lever so no screw head visible. It would help of you'd post the barrel flats and the advertising on the lower sections of the barrel, along with the water-table/action flats.

Here are some used "Solyd"'s 'for sale in France - looks like it's a Saint-Etienne made gun:
https://armurerie-bernizan.com/inde...sil-de-chasse-fusil-de-chasse-cal-12-65/
http://www.aiolfi.com/vente/686-arm...hasse-solid-categorie-c/#tab_description
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Saint-Etienne-solyd-item-9811951.html
https://www.chassepassion.net/forums-chasse/topic/recherche-dinfos-sur-un-fusil-juxtapose-cal-16/

In the last 2011 article on Passion la Chaise,
. . .-- the author identifies the barrel maker as "Fanget" and one correspondent believe it was made by VC because of the trademark "Acier Diamont" (diamond steel).
. . .-- But another claimed it is "artisanal made" in Saint-Etienne."
. . .-- One said a call to this armurier in Saint-Etienne could solve the mystery: un armurier devrait pouvoir te rensseigner: cedric camus 04 77 56 72 46.
. . .-- The poster said his father's "Solyd" was bought in the 1950's.
. . .-- Later on in the post, a poster put up another "Solyd" and said it was made by Manufrance (post no longer available):
http://www.naturabuy.fr/Veritable-Hammerless-Saint-Etienne-modele-Solyd-item-235036.html
. . .-- (The article also discusses the word "hammerless" which is of course English).

https://www.naturabuy.fr/Fusils-juxtaposes-SMFM-critere-498486.html

Salut,
"SOLYD" était une marque déposée par la S.M.F.M. Cette société fut fondée en 1945 par Rouby-Montuclard.
En 1956, ils ont fabriqué quelques fusils avec une mise à feu électrique qui n'a pas vraiment eu de succès.

Can you identify mine?

Vesailles: Here is my analysis of your barrel flats; photo is unclear; It is Saint-Etienne. I don't know what the three balloons are but might be a manufacturers' proof mark. Where I think where the Fanget mark is (need a clearer photo) there should be some other sort of advertising bits. I'd have to research "Helios"... You didn't give us much to go on.



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Here is what fab500 posted about the original gun:

"SOLYD was a copyright of SMFM (Saint-Etienne)(Société Moderne de Fabrication Mécanique). This company was created by Rouby-Montuclard in 1945. In 1950's they made an electronic action which were not a great success."

Crown over Vs(whatever) on the following thread also:

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=133488

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

https://www.shotguns.se/html/france.html

see 24 and 25

or

29 Paris proof house , double proof