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No doubt many investors are better advised to keep their funds securely in insured holdings. To suggest, however, that all investors follow such a policy, no doubt can be misplaced. Probably in its most simplistic form, if you ever think of anyone that has accumulated serious levels of assets and has achieved what any of you might describe as "significant wealth," the question can easily be asked, "How did they accomplish such? Did they get there by loaning their funds and collecting rent (interest) on it, or did they own something? In general, I think that we would acknowledge that most large asset accumulations came from some sort of long-term equity ownership. Of course not every investor has the temperament or ability to most efficiently do this in a comfortable risk profile relative to their needs, but the long-term performance of equities vs. debt is so overwhelmingly distorted in favor of the former that many investors carefully explore ways to consider it.

An interesting aside, relative to the the stock position I mentioned earlier that was my December 2022 selection for my year-end investment that would benefit from excessive tax loss selling, the position somewhat has a double gun related association. About 8 or 9 years ago I was hunting for a couple of days at an interesting plantation near Thomasville, GA. The plantation was sort of a "membership" plantation where about 15 guys from around the country would pay about $150,000/year to have unlimited access to what was essentially a Ritz Carlton in the quail woods. It was a pretty exclusive group with a few notable CEOs from coast to coast in the membership. I was fortunate to get to go there as a guest on several occasions. Anyway, one the guys that was very involved with the place had enjoyed much of his career at Oracle. While there, he came up with a technological advancement that he wanted Oracle to pursue, but they decided not to. As a result, the guy left Oracle and started his own company, which he later built and sold for many billions of dollars. It was after all of this that he flew to Thomasville after he was leaving the SCI Convention in Reno for a few days of hunting, but along with him, he brought Stefano Pedretti, one of the world's best engravers, who he had just commissioned to engrave an entire flight of new Piotti shotguns. Anyway, I had a good conversation with the accomplished entrepreneur, particularly about why he had decided on an Italian maker vs an English one. All that said, I started following his next business pursuits.
A couple of years ago another hot stock was on the market in another new area of technology--artificial intelligence. I guess I should not have been surprised when I realized that the guy that I visited with those years before near Thomasville was the founder of this new and highly anticipated venture. It was called C3.ai The company came public and subsequently soared to excessive heights and valuations, all based upon potential, an equity driver that can often lead to disappointing, or at a minimum, unpredictable results. Over the next 2 years the stock became one of the classic examples an oversold year-end tax loss purchase candidate that I explained earlier. As mentioned, I took advantage of it in a very modest fashion and am now pleasantly enjoying a positive market correction in that company that truly is a direct benefit from a good time in quail country.... laugh

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Originally Posted by Run With The Fox
When I was about 12 I asked my maternal Grandfather about this entity- he was down to earth, like you, he invested in commodities, as people always will need food items, and also had farm roots--

Because no one ever lost money in commodities, Fox.



PS: I think you meant AR.


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OK- explain this one to me, as most of the area farms where I have open permission to hunt, and shoot vermin, year around are working dairy farms-- at best, a farm of some acreage needs a minumum market price of $17.50/hundred wt. for their milk to "break even" annually. But when the retail price of a gallon of milk goes from $4.95/ to $5.25, does the dairy farmer see his check increase from the milk Co-Op to which he sells his raw pastuerized milk--???? IMO, the farmer gets "screwed, jewed and tattoed by the market.."" Many family farms that I have known have sold out their milking stock-mostly Holsteins, and are doing beef only now-a-days. How can a bunch of fat cats on the Chicago Board of Trade regulate the market, they get rich, the farmer gets screwed.. RWTF


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Originally Posted by Run With The Fox
OK- explain this one to me, as most of the area farms where I have open permission to hunt, and shoot vermin, year around are working dairy farms-- at best, a farm of some acreage needs a minumum market price of $17.50/hundred wt. for their milk to "break even" annually. But when the retail price of a gallon of milk goes from $4.95/ to $5.25, does the dairy farmer see his check increase from the milk Co-Op to which he sells his raw pastuerized milk--???? IMO, the farmer gets "screwed, jewed and tattoed by the market.."" Many family farms that I have known have sold out their milking stock-mostly Holsteins, and are doing beef only now-a-days. How can a bunch of fat cats on the Chicago Board of Trade regulate the market, they get rich, the farmer gets screwed.. RWTF

You’re asking the wrong guy, Fox.

Should be right in Stan’s wheelhouse though.


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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
I know zero about stocks. Spent my life following the commodities markets. But I read about something recently that may, or may not, affect your decision about Transocean. It might pay to do a search for e fuels and read up on it before pulling the trigger.

To quote a Southern colloquialism, Stan, "I done already did that." They sound great but I'm afraid they're a panacea:

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Read where deepwater drilling is coming on strong again. Old rigs are coming out of storage.
OTOH the push into shallow water continues, and the Arabs have purchased nearly all the available jackups. Daily rates for both have increased dramatically.

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Worked on all the super deepwater platforms.100 million to complete a well average flow 30,000 bbls a day plus 50 million gas high btu.Flow drops 10% per year for 5 years run the numbers.Unproduced volume to supply the US for 50 years.

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Originally Posted by lonesome roads
PS: I think you meant AR.


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That’s like, a whole hundred dollars, man, between buck a bird and motorized bicycle tires, you be king, b1tch.

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"Oh, gotit= you guys is bookies!"" Great spoof movie!! RWTF-


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Bag holder:

A bag holder is slang for an investor who holds onto poorly-performing investments, hoping they will rebound when chances are that they will not.

Bag holders often succumb to the disposition effect or sunk cost fallacy, which causes them to cling to their positions for irrationally long periods.


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