I shoot both 3/4 ounce loads in the 12 and 20. The 20 gauge version is great and will smoke Skeet targets. The 12 is a great low recoil option, for new shooters. Either will handle Sporting Clay targets with authority. Often it is more an issue of getting proper wads and adjusting stack height. They work well in 2 1/2" hulls and you don't need to use any filler.