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I was looking at a spread sheet for 10ga load data. Many of the loads were listed as "Sherman Bell Doublegun Journal" as the source for the data.
Is anyone here familiar with this data?
It was put out in the Parker Gun Collectors site.
The particular 10ga load I'm interested in is:
Federal hull
W209 primer
35.0gr SR4756
Rem SP10 wad
1.5oz lead shot
1221fps
7600psi
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Volume eleven, issue 3 of the Double Gun Journal is where you can find Bells 10 gauge test info.
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That might have been a "tested" load, not commonly found in any reloading manual. If it is on the spread sheet from "J. B. Brooks", on the Parker site, he noted where each load was from, if he knew. His data has been very good. Some loads were published, some from powder websites and some had been tested for pressures and velocity. Checking volumes 1-5 of Lyman I see a similar load(s) using the Remington 2 7/8 hull with 57 primers, Volume 3 which is about the end of short ten loads. Do not have my BP Mighty 10 manual near me to check, but it might be listed in there. Now I need to figure out where my mighty ten manual is or who I loaned it to. You can purchase and download the BP Mighty ten manual. I need to think a bit and figure out which safe place I put it. https://i.imgur.com/wDrma87.pngThis might make it easier for others to follow along and see where our information came from that you are trying to verify.
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Thank you very much for putting this up Jon. I was only working with a smaller screen shot.
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Tomorrow I’ll check my data from the old ten gauge reloading data for you. Will report.
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Is this the one you were looking for? I have it as a PDF and copied and pasted it, unfortunately it did not copy the chart lines separating the loads.
10 gauge 2 7/8" Loads and Accompanying pressures
Compliments of
Sir S.E. Bell
HULL PRIMER POWDER CHARGE PAYLOAD (oz) Wad Combo BUFFER CRIMP PRESSURE (psi) VELOCITY (fps) COMMENTS
1 ** Rem blkltr Win209 Clays 22gr 1 lead SP10 16ga FBS 6 pt 5200 1149
2 ** Rem blkltr Win209 Clays 23gr 1 lead SP10 16ga FBS 6 pt 6300 1224
3 Rem blkltr Win209 700X 18gr 1 lead SP10 2 16ga FBS 1/4" 6 pt 5700 1096 ????
4 Rem blkltr Win209 SR7625 30gr 1 1/8 lead SP10 4 16ga .070 NC 6 pt 5100 1143 Black shows similar velocity and equal pres.
5 Rem blkltr Fed 209A SR7625 30gr 1 1/8 lead SP10 1/4" 20ga felt 6 pt 6700 1242 Hot primer=high pressure
6 Rem blkltr Win209 SR7625 29gr 1 1/4 lead SP10 2 16ga .070 NC 6 pt 5900 1093
7 Rem blkltr Win209 SR7625 33gr 1 1/4 lead SP10 1 16ga .070 NC 6 pt 5500 1133
8 * Rem blkltr Win209 SR4756 34gr 1 1/4 lead SP10 1 16ga .070 NC 6 pt 6000 1171
9 Rem blkltr Win209 UnivClays 26gr 1 1/2 lead SP10 6 pt 5700 953 more powder
10 Rem blkltr Win209 UnivClays 27.5gr 1 1/2 lead SP10 6 pt 6100 1012 more powder
11 Rem blkltr Win209 UnivClays 29gr 1 1/2 lead SP10 6 pt 8300 1161
12 Rem blkltr Win209 SR7625 29gr 1 5/8 lead x10x 2 1/4" filler MR Roll 6900 1067 2 recorded
13 Rem blkltr Fed209A SR4756 32gr 1 5/8 lead x10x 2 1/4" filler MR Roll 9800 1139 Hot primer=high pressure
14 ** Rem blkltr Win209 SR4756 34gr 1 5/8 lead x10x 2 1/4" filler MR Roll 7100 1121
15 Rem blkltr Win209 SR7625 29gr 1 1/4 bismuth SP10 24gr PSB Roll 5900 1093
16 ** Rem blkltr Win209 SR7625 30.5gr 1 1/4 bismuth SP10 24gr PSB Roll 6600 1127
17 Rem blkltr Win209 SR4756 32gr 1 1/4 bismuth SP10 24gr PSB Roll 5200 1066 more powder
18 ** Rem blkltr Win209 SR4756 34gr 1 1/4 bismuth x10x 1/4"filler 12 1/4" felt MR 24gr PSB Roll 6300 1167
19 Rem blkltr Win209 SR4756 32gr 1 1/2 bismuth x10x 2 1/4" filler MR 24gr PSB Roll 7100 1053 Drop in pressure due to roll
20 Rem blkltr Win 209 SR4756 32gr 1 1/2 bismuth Pacific Wad 24gr PSB 6 pt 11700 1193 Temp 80 but hot load
21 Rem blkltr Win 209 SR4756 32gr 1 1/2 bismuth Pacific Wad 23.5gr PSB 6 pt 11300 1193 lower but cooler 20
22 Rem blkltr Win 209 SR4756 32gr 1 1/2 bismuth x10x 1 1/4" filler MR 23.5gr PSB 6 pt 10600 1164
23 Rem blkltr Win 209 SR4756 32gr 1 1/2 bismuth x10x 1 1/4" filler MR 23.5gr PSB 6 pt 10200 1164
24 Rem blkltr Win 209 SR4756 33gr 1 1/2 bismuth x10x 2 1/4" filler MR 24gr PSB Roll 7700 1094
25 ** Rem blkltr Win 209 SR4756 34gr 1 1/2 bismuth x10x 2 1/4" filler MR 24gr PSB Roll 7900 1146 Nitro Bismuth
26 Rem whtltr Win209 700X 19gr 1 lead SP10 2 16ga FBS 1/4" 6 pt 6700 1168 ????
27 ** Rem whtltr Win209 Clays 21gr 1 lead SP10 16ga FBS 3/8"w/.07NC 6 pt 5600 1139
28 *** Rem whtltr Win209 Clays 22gr 1 lead SP10 16ga FBS 3/8"w/.07NC 6 pt 6300 1211
29 Rem whtltr Win209 Clays 18gr 1 lead SP10 16ga FBS 6pt 4700 1030 more powder
30 Rem whtltr Win209 Clays 21gr 1 lead SP10 3/8" Foam & NC 6 pt 5200 1145 Not on foam wad
31 Rem whtltr Win209 Clays 19.5gr 1 lead SP10 1/2" Foam 6 pt 4700 1097 Shot embedded in foam (rifle style foam)
32 Rem whtltr Win 209 Clays 19.5gr 1 lead SP10 2 16ga FBS 1/4" 6 pt 5200 1101 more powder
33 *** Rem whtltr Win209 SR7625 30gr 1 1/8 lead SP10 2 16ga .070 NC 6 pt 5600 1153
34 Rem whtltr Win 209 SR7625 30gr 1 1/8 lead SP10 1/4" 20ga felt 6 pt 5300 1149
35 Rem whtltr Fed 209A SR7625 28gr 1 1/8 lead SP10 2 16ga .070 NC 6 pt 6600 1155 Same pressure at > pressure
36 Rem whtltr Fed209A SR7625 30gr 1 1/8 lead SP10 2 16ga .070 NC 6 pt 7300 1226 Fed Primer rise in pressure
37 Rem whtltr Fed 209A SR7625 30gr 1 1/8 lead SP10 .20 24ga NC 6 pt 7600 1276 Hot primer=high pressure
38 Rem whtltr Win209 700X 18gr 1 1/8 lead SP10 1/2" Rifle Foam 6 pt 5500 1075
39 Rem whtltr Win209 700X 19gr 1 1/8 lead SP10 1/2" Rifle Foam 6 pt 7000 1151 >pres than necessary
40 Rem whtltr Win 209 700X 19gr 1 1/8 lead SP10 2 16ga 1/4" FBS 6 pt 6200 1065
41 * Rem whtltr Win209 SR7625 29gr 1 1/4 lead SP10 6 pt 6400 1174
42 Rem whtltr Win 209 SR7625 29gr 1 1/4 lead SP10 1 16ga .070 NC 6 pt 6100 1124
43 Rem whtltr Fed 209A SR4756 32gr 1 1/4 lead SP10 6 pt 7800 1280 Hot primer=high pressure
44 Rem OS Win209 SR7625 30gr 1 1/4 lead SP10 6 pt 6500 1173
45 Rem OS Win209 SR7625 30gr 1 1/4 lead SP10 6 pt 6100 1145
46 Rem OS Win209 SR7625 30gr 1 1/4 lead SP10 2 16ga .070 NC Roll 4900 1082 Vari in Crimps
47 Rem OS Win209 SR7625 30gr 1 1/4 lead SP10 2 16ga .070 NC Roll 5300
David
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