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Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
You can email the pics to me, I’ll get them up for you.

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Ted,

Thank you. When I get some pics, I'll see about hosting them elsewhere. If that doesn't work I will email them to you.


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I have an 1894 barrel that has been re-choked and has the marked shot count on the lug X-ed out. I would like to compare the XX stamps with the OP's. The choke mods are a bit weird as it is the left barrel that was opened up.

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Remington Models 1894 and 1900 -- are essentially the same except for levels of workmanship and the forearm fastening. They were both built in the same patents No. 528,507 and No. 528,508 both granted Oct 30, 1894. No. 528,507 was granted to Rimmon C. Fay and No. 528,508 to Rimmon C. Fay and George E. Humphreys. Both were assigned to Remington Arms Company of Ilion, NY. Changes over time apply to both the Model 1894 and 1900. Early guns had flat ribs, firing pins integral with the hammers (Remington calls them hammers), and a safety slide raised in the middle. Later guns had concave ribs, separate firing pins, and a safety slide dished in the middle. Also the sear pin was moved a bit forward in the frame. The Remington Catalogues of the period show a cutaway, and have illustrated parts lists. Up through 1906 the parts lists and cutaways show the firing pins integral with the hammers, while my 1908-9 Remington catalogue shows the separate firing pins.

The Model 1900 was also called the K-Grade. The K-grade had Remington Steel barrels and plain extractors. With ejectors it was known as the KE-Grade. If a Model 1900 had Damascus barrels it was known as either the KD-Grade or the KED-Grade.

List prices from the 1908-9 Remington catalogue were: K-Grade $30, KE-Grade $35, KD-Grade $35, and KED-Grade $40. In the 1908 Sears catalogue the K-Grade could be had for $25, and that was the price often quoted in magazine ads.

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I always think of the 1900 as being the Remington 1894 version of the Sterlingworth for the Fox graded guns. Simpler fore end with less finish for a lower price. I like the Remington case colors on their early guns a lot.

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Originally Posted by KY Jon
I always think of the 1900 as being the Remington 1894 version of the Sterlingworth for the Fox graded guns. Simpler fore end with less finish for a lower price. I like the Remington case colors on their early guns a lot.


Me too. But with 1894 A and B grades priced where they are, I can't imagine why I wouldn't buy one of them rather than a 1900. Oops, I have. Actually I;ve bought 2 B grades and a 1900 that was so cheap I bought it just to mess around with it.


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Remingtons are a great buy. I just wish most did nit have head cracks in the stock. Not that hard to correct but still a crack is a crack.

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To date a Remington Arms Co. catalog dated 1900 has not surfaced. I have seen the 1899 Remington Arms Co. catalog with an insert announcing the K-Grade. The first 1901 Remington Arms Co. catalog lists the K-Grade in 12- & 16-gauge both with 28-, 30- or 32-inch barrels and pictures the KED-Grade in the same gauges and barrel lengths stated to be ready for delivery July 1, 1901. Offerings remain the same through the second 1902 Remington Arms Co. catalog. In the 1903-04 Remington Arms Co. catalog they added the KD-Grade in the same gauges and barrel lengths. The K-, KD- & KED-Grades in 12- & 16-gauge both with 28-, 30- or 32-inch barrels remained the offerings through the 1905-06 Remington Arms Co. catalog. In the first 1906 Remington Arms Co. catalog they filled out the line adding the KE-Grade and dropping the 32-inch barrels for the 16-gauge guns. In the 1908-09 Remington Arms Co. catalog they added the option of 26-inch barrels in both gauges for the K- & KE-Grades. No changes for the 1909 Remington Arms Co. catalog. The prices shown in the Remington Arms Co. catalogs were the "List Price" K-Grade $30, KE-Grade $35, KD-Grade $35 and the KED-Grade $40. The actual "Net Retail Prices" were K-Grade $25, KE-Grade $28.50, KD-Grade $30 and the KED-Grade $33.50.

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Semmer called that extra four-digit number on the left watertable and forearm iron (circled in red) an assembly number --

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Not sure I buy that as the serial number (yellow) or the last three or four digits of it are stamped on most every part of the gun. I don't believe anyone still alive knows what that four-digit number really means. We don't see that extra four-digit number on A- to EEO-grades?!?

In going through the pictures I've saved I found a 16-gauge with the pellet counts on the lug Xd and Hd out.

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We see the W.H. on a lot of Remington doubles and the anchor inspector's stamp is seen on most Remington guns throughout their history.

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Originally Posted by Researcher
In the 1908-09 Remington Arms Co. catalog they added the option of 26-inch barrels in both gauges for the K- & KE-Grades.

Were 26" barrels available before being cataloged?
Or are the production dates at Remington Society incorrect?
https://www.remingtonsociety.org/serials-shotgun/

Linked page has the production date for his shotgun as 1903.


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