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thank you for that positive input...


keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Originally Posted by LeFusil


.....The entire process has been laid out for you in basically coloring book style by some extremely knowledgeable and competent individuals here and yet you still want to flap your gums and either ask dumb questions, make stupid comments or suggestions, etc. It’s so tiresome.

People are tired of your stupid antics here, Ed. You have got to be the one of the most ignorant, annoying, and completely obtuse people this board has ever had.

Sorry Dustin, but I didn't find Ed's misconceptions about rib relaying vs. reregulation even one percent as offensive as the recent off-topic Thread where rocky mtn bill eulogized the Donald Trump hater David Gerson. Not even close! There are things far worse here than Ed's thoughts on regulation.

Really, it just isn't possible to do an actual reregulation job without unsoldering the ribs. So the two processes are closely related. However, I'd agree that the vast majority of gunsmiths who relay ribs are only going to rely upon their jigs and clamping to maintain the original points of impact.... which they could not know for certain without test firing at a pattern board with the desired load. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, most barrel assemblers working for the manufacturers of mostly machine made guns probably didn't do any tedious jig-and-shoot regulation of shotgun barrels either. They likely did little more than check probable point of impact by sighting through the bores before joining. Old hang tags with test firing results seemed primarily concerned with pattern density and choke boring. Regulating double rifles is another story entirely, and the extra work involved helps to explain their higher prices.

So I just don't understand why you were so upset with Ed's comments. They weren't nearly as wrong as when the Preacher argued for several days that lengthening the chambers of vintage doubles will actually increase the wall thickness at the end of the recut chambers. That was just about as crazy as it gets... other than actually paying Briley's to recut a chamber to try proving that was true. I don't think Ed would ever do something like that, so who is more obtuse? Maybe disgusting is simply in the eye of the beholder, and bears little relation to fact???


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The more I read about relaying ribs the more I admire ribless guns, from the first Alex Martins to current work like the totally ribless Chapuis OU.Even the ugly duckling Baby Bretton has managed to solve the regulation problem with its plastic muzzle yoke (hand detachable too!).

Makers who tout their million dollar/pound investment in high precision CNC, EDM, CAD still employ 14th century tin smithing techniques to fix ribs that have no functional role in the final product.

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yeah, but without a top rib, they are frenchie ugly...

but ah like the idea of a removeable muzzle yoke...

got pitchers...

Last edited by ed good; 11/28/22 10:06 AM.

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