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As the tubes were assembled in 1931 , I would think that the gun would not have been made during the noted dates ( 1905-1911) , for Emile Warnant en Cie - ???

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Originally Posted by J.B.Patton
As the tubes were assembled in 1931 , I would think that the gun would not have been made during the noted dates ( 1905-1911) , for Emile Warnant en Cie - ???
The date of manufacture and the date of testing aren't the same thing. Apparently the shotgun was imported into Germany and then received German marks of 1931, if that's what you mean

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Seems odd that a gun manufactured by a company that dissolved in 1911 would not have the proof done until 20 years later… I wonder if the leftover / but unfinished receiver portion was purchased by some independent gunmaker (from E.Warnant et Cie), and subsequently finished by adding the German tubes and forend after arriving in Germany ?
I know E.Warnant made guns for Bodson- and I see Griffin and Howe have a Bodson self opener ( Beesley-Purdey patent) on their site.
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Originally Posted by J.B.Patton
Seems odd that a gun manufactured by a company that dissolved in 1911 would not have the proof done until 20 years later… I wonder if the leftover / but unfinished receiver portion was purchased by some independent gunmaker (from E.Warnant et Cie), and subsequently finished by adding the German tubes and forend after arriving in Germany ?
I know E.Warnant made guns for Bodson- and I see Griffin and Howe have a Bodson self opener ( Beesley-Purdey patent) on their site.
Thank you for the information.
Best Regards,
JBP

Sorry, I'll repeat it again. Visible Liegee proof marks was placed on the gun tested as an assembly. If they aren`t on the barrels, then the barrel block were not made in Liege. It could be made in Germany at any time. This pair of barrels isn`t native if don`t have Liege proof marks.

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Alain Daubresse (littlegun.be) correctly wrote that the stamp "E.W. under crown" belonged to Emile Warnant, but unfortunately he doesn`t see that the stamp "E.W. under star" is another stamp. The stamp "E.W. under star" belonged to Eugene and Ernest Wilmart.

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So , the noted image under the action

E.W. Co. ( no star or crown )

is the mark for Emile Warnant et Cie. ?

which produced the gun between 1905-1911

is this your contention?

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If we are talking about the pre-war period, let's say about 1910, then according to the available information, there was company Emile Warnant et Cie and there was company Ernest Wilmart et Cie. In the gun trade was the first company, the second traded in marble. In Liege were no other companies whose stamp could be EW Co, of course, if we believe Druart and Gadisseur. Therefore, a guarantee close to 100% could be given if the production date of the shotgun was known (the proofing date in Germany isn`t like that).

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