Beams in all our eyes. We should all pluck our own first. Many of us resort to the sarcastic quip and the OT cross-chatter and the veiled putdown. I doubt if even the charter member of The League can claim NEVER to have participated in a few sidebar discussions of classic cars smack in the middle of someone's else's super-serious and informative doublegun thread. How about it, John? As Mr. Chambers has commented repeatedly, it would be a good thing if some of us, finding ourselves with little to say, said less. Certainly true in my case--I just looked at my post count. But I'm pretty tired of the argument ad hominem and the slander of character and note that most of this is coming from one of us and one only. So how's about everyone who's involved just give back each other's goat and call it a day. Tomorrow let's think about the consequences of poking each other in the ribs and then, if the urge cannot be denied, just do it. Just don't do it gratuitously. It's within our power to ignore each other without the aid of an "ignore" button; some of that shunning has already begun. What's the point of that when we all claim to belong to the same tribe?

jack