Thanks folks. The New Era looked very much like the Schovering, Dailey & Gales version presented here so....I'm guessing it was a 12 after all (Cabelas couldn't figure that out as it was completely unmarked on the tag). The Forehand was fairly petite as well so....who knows. It seems likely now that both were 12s. Wanted to like them, but both have too-much drop and both are overly short. Cabelas also didn't figure out that both were twist barrels as well (again, completely unidentified). There were also a number of Lefevers present (all low-grade & in various states of disrepair) so it looked to me like Cabelas had bought a collection of old doubles from somebody's grandchildren(?). Let the buyer's beware at Cabelas anymore, eh?