There are no real good Golden lines around here, slate. Seems the brains are gone, all jolly jacks. From what I hear Goldens are softer than the Labs and Labs are softer than the one-man Chessies. My four-year-old Lab is going in for that big-buck rear-knee operation next week---cruciate something---so I'll probably have him only for a week or so of this year's gunning. The ligature break is apparently something like hockey players get from overstressed twisting and turning.