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This gun has less than two boxes of shells through it over the last 6-7 years. Now, it won’t eject the bottom barrel. It won’t go back to CSMC because their work is garbage (as seen from the bores). I live in CO, and want to get the gun usable again. I’ve heard rumors CSMC has had problems with springs breaking. Is this typically an easy fix for a semi competent gunsmith?

Edit. Is there an easy way to post pictures?

I have had it happen with a gun that sat up for awhile. Took a few rounds to get everything ejecting properly again

The day it stopped working, I had fired it a couple times prior with no issues. Now, you have to pry the shell out.

Factory ammo or reloads?

Thank you
Mike

Factory

When you say pry do you mean really hard to pull out or easy and you are pissed?

Try some different shells. If you have any with real brass bases, try that first. Brass bases expand on firing then retract a bit, whereas steel bases expand on firing and stay that way.

I haven’t shot it since last season, but if I remember correctly, I had to use the lip on a spent shell to pop it out…. At this point, Im not pissed anymore. I was pissed the 2nd time the gun had to go back to CSMC after they didn’t fix several craftsmanship issues the first time. The sad thing is, I love their A-10’s, but due to their QC, I’ll probably end up with a Guerini instead.

Holly cow, I just took delivery of an inverness last month hope I have no issues. I use snap caps Then remove the forearm, and barrels remove snaps and put the gun back together and store back in the safe.

Note sure that helps or not.

Rich

Everyone I know who’s owned a CSMC has had issues with every single gun. With that said, nobody I know has bought one in years, so they may be better now. But when a well known high end gun dealers tells you he has no idea why anyone would ever buy a CSMC gun, that should say something. The chambers on mine still look like a 6yr old had fun using a Dremel on them, but I got sick of sending it back to CSMC just to have them screw up other things.

Try to shoot a C. Guerini before you buy to make sure it has enough drop for you. Lots of shooters love them but, I can't shoot them, or several other of the Italian O/U makers' guns well because they are stocked so straight. I have to float the bird above the bead and I refuse to do that. If I ever bought one I'd have to custom order more drop, or have it bent. FWIW, I haven't had that issue with most Berettas I've shot.

I'm beginning to believe I'm built with some strange dimensions that won't work with them. I can't imagine several Italian makers building their competition guns with dimensions that are not suitable to the majority of shooters.

I'll keep you posted when I get to run some shells through it. I have a RBL sr# less than 100, and ran a case with never a malfunction. Nock on wood! The ejection cycle on the Inverness was strong with the snap caps.

So, the ejector does not work when dry fired?

Reamer marks in the chambers are hallmarks of all CSMC shotguns. I owned four RBL's and one A10. They all had reamer gouges in the chambers.
JR

Sweet.....

Best,
Ted

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Best,
Ted

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Lord have mercy….are we still fighting the Civil War 160 years later? We’re ALL Americans now and we best stick together in these real troubled times. But, back to the CSMC shotgun problem and the same but ignored question to the OP…..does the ejector function in the offended barrel on dry fire??

It does work with snap caps.

Try some different shells, easiest thing to try first. Chamber size could be off a little, weak spring, a burr hanging up the shell. Steel bases on cheaper shells swell and stay swelled. Good luck.

or ever worse, swollen-- bad news, usually associated with the older paper hulls and duck hunting with them--RWTF

. When you say swollen, what are you referring to? I’ll try different shells and see what happens.

Try AA or Remington STS with brass bases.

Works with snap caps , well, then here we go.

Burnish the chambers, use only AA or Rem all brass headed ammo for a while.

I have been known to gently use a heavily oiled new chamber reamer to freshen the chamber.

Mike

Mike,
If you don't mind, please explain how you proceeded with that, and where you bought your reamer. Hand turned I assume.
JR

When I was a kid, we all managed to get wet as a matter of course every time we went duck hunting. Paper duck shells by the end of the season would swell up to the point they would no longer chamber. We'd have a coot shoot on the last day of the season to get rid of the swollen up shells...Geo

A brake cylinder hone, some light oil, duct tape for protection of the barrels and a hand drill. Smooth things right out.

Well, reading of the heretofore uniformly dissatisfied customer experiences with CSMC's guns makes me feel like I musta won a gun quality lottery. I bought my RBL 16 when they were first made and have been happily shooting pheasants and prairie grouse with it ever since. Not a high volume test, I've only shot a few hundred targets with it, but no cosmetic nor operating issues in quite a few years. (I'm not gonna count them up, I feel old enough already.)

I felt lucky with this gun from the outset. Though I wanted to specify a higher and straighter than "standard" comb, they didn't offer this. Turned out my gun came with 1-1/8" DAC and 1-7/8" DAH -- perfect for me. Yeah, someone else taking delivery of this gun could have found reason for complaint in those dimensions, but not me. Even the chambers are well and uniformly honed. I suppose their resale value has suffered from all the complaints ... so good thing I'm happy to keep shooting it -- at least until something inevitably goes wrong.

Hey Chief, I seem to remember some long ago talk with you here about you getting a 16 ga. RBL that weighed well under 6.5 lbs. Did that gun turn bad for you too?

Jay

I think the satisfied customers are happy and are not interested in posting. I love my 28g. 30" RBL (bought in 2016) and my 20g. 30" O/U Inverness (bought in 2014). They have shot clays and been hunted. Never a problem. I hunted both of them for Quail in Georgia in late January this year. I just wish they would clean themselves.

Hi Jay, been awhile! No, my RBL is just clicking right along. I did slick up the chambers and it is now an extractor gun. Past that it serves its intended purpose killing phez and the occasional grouse and very occasionally these days a Hun. No problems. My largest dissatisfaction is the engraving. less, or none would be more. Mine has great wood for the 2X.
I will add that it was a good deal at 3K. I wouldn't pay what CSMC wants now. Lots of other options.

Chief

My, or my wife's, Inverness is working fine after limited use. I'll take it out this week to confirm. How much are you all paying for the Inverness?

I see that CSMC has a lot of their guns at make an offer status! Here's your chance folks. I'm pretty well set up at this point in life, I must say one of their much maligned Savage Fox 12's might be OK at a large discount though. Still looking for the 12 RBL built on the 16 frame. Funny, don't see any of those for sale. Surely some of those owners have been so totally depressed by their purchase to offer one up, cheap?

Chief

Though I don't have one of their top of the line O/Us, and my previous comments may have seemed somewhat critical, my Revelation 30in is very gratifying to shoot (regulation and patterns even with cheap bird shot) and look at! The wood I received for standard price surpasses most of the upgrades. I have been told by a smith at csmc that the action and construction are the same across the Inverness/model21 O/U and Revelation lines. I only question the barrel/mid rib construction from an acedemic standpoint, and am interested in others opinions. The company is not forthcoming as a rule and they don't provide any literature or care instructions. The gun is admired by all who see it and always draws interest.
I was interested in the case colored Inverness but the less expensive Revelation ticked all the boxes at a lower price point. I guess next time in the northeast I'll have to stop in and see how the barrels are constructed.

I would assume Tony will be at the Southern, a bit earlier and closer than the Northeast. He doesn't list the Northeast as one of the shows he will attend. I don't think his rig will fit on the road into the Northeast facility.

Tony lists some Revelations at $2450. I think that is a great price.

He put quite a few in folks' hands for 1995.00.

Oops, I thought I had been posting in the other recent CSMC Inverness thread! That said, I have a comment on the chambers since others have said theirs seem rough. Although they appear rather rough on my gun, my fingertip profilometer says they're around a 16 ra or so finish, or very smooth.