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Hey, guys.
What's the oldest Merkel OU you've seen? Do you have any pics you can share?
Merkel claims to have started making OUs in 1898. I've seen a couple from early '30s, but I don't know if I've seen from before then.
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Indeed, Gebrüder Merkel was founded in 1898 and had a Bockgewehre Modellreihe but I am not sure that the Bockgewehre was highly popular until a bit later?
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Perhaps. But if they weren't building many OUs early on, what were they making?
Do you know when Merkel/German OUs first appear in American catalogs from NYC shops like Stoeger?
I know they were selling them by 1932. But any earlier?
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They may have been making weapons for the French speaking market as I have seen adverts from the early to mid 1920s in French. Too, I believe that they advertised that they had been making O/U - Bockgewehre - Superposés since 1905.
Remember that S,D,G / Daly had the U.S. of A. market cornered and as their concern faltered, others like A&F, V,L,D, etc. picked up their share. Daly was peddling side by sides and even had to pull in Sauer to fill all the orders.
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for what its worth, i have a beautiful 12 OU dated october 1935.
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Courtesy of Mr. Hallowell ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/tbOx3Tz.png) Oldest pic I could find.
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I think we are going to see few here in the U.S. of A. so we need to look to inland Germany & maybe to eGun.de or similar? https://www.egun.de/market/list_items.php?cat=64Serbus, Raimey rse
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Raimey, totaly true what you say. The answer you can find in the book of Hans Jürgen Fritze "Gebrüder Merkel" pagina 12 you can read that the production fur Bockgewehre started in 1905. Cheers, Marc.
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Marc:
Many thanks for the conformation and Great to see you engaged & posting.
I would follow the money guns in competition shooting. I would say that was driving the type of shotgun platform and most everyone else joined the cult. Like I said, Daly had the pulse of the American Sportsman plus offered his wares as prizes @ shooting events and if he wasn't promoting it, it wasn't sold. So when Schoverling, Daly & Gales started to fall apart, the other American retailers took their respective pieces of pie. And in those slices of pie was the new fangled stack gun platform that was all the rage and made the most money.
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