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Sidelock
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Slightly off topic: Good discussion. A friend handed me his open Kreighoff the other day. I closed it sloooowly holding this top lever over and released the lever when the breech face was home. A friendly admonishment from him: "Kreighoffs are meant to be closed. Just close it". Need some guidance here. thanks, Gil
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I will add my 2c worth from the perspective of a beater, walking and occasionally standing stop -in front of the guns on pegs. I can tell you all that it is not a particularly pleasant feeling to watch the shooter on his peg flipping up the barrels to the action. Unfortunately this method of closing after reloading seems to be the norm on most shoots nowadays. A sad reflection on the competency of these shooters and their ignorance of the technical aspects of shotgun mechanics.
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I was always taught to raise the wood to the barrels not the barrels to the wood. The muzzles pointing safely to the ground. As geener4me above says and for exactly the same reasons. Sadly gun safety is slipping somewhat in Britain with people entering shooting with little or no mentoring. They go to a formal driven shoot not knowing how to behave. Commercial shoots are to blame in my opinion as they are only interested in making profit. Some of the things I see these days would have had the perpetrator sent home at one time. Lagopus.....
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YouTube clip re: British shotgun handling. Safe shotgun handling
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Just close the dam thing and don't worry about it....
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Just close the dam thing and don't worry about it.... Exactly, and worry about proper gun mount….
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Sounds like a subject for gun writers who had run out of things to write about.
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Just to expand on Parabola's comment regarding a (?)Spanish gun's faulty lockwork, an acquaintance (metallurgist/engineer) who carries out a considerable number of repairs on older traditional English sxs shotguns as well as modern O/U's of foreign manufacture (some of them quite pricey) remarked that the locks on the former were "without exception well filed, well tempered and properly hardened" whilst the latter's were "all soft as **** ". This comment - and the fact that the most likely occasion for accidental discharge is on closure after reloading, makes it obvious why I get irritated when I am standing 50-60 yards in front of a "gun toter" who flicks his barrels up to close the action (mostly an O/U of continental manufacture.)
Last edited by greener4me; 12/05/21 06:17 PM. Reason: ommission of words.
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His gun, his call, but I am on the same page as you are- I have the barrels pointed to the ground in front of me, bring the buttstock and receiver group upwards to the breech with the opening lever pushed over to the right, onve I feel the barrels seated in the action, I slowly release the lever and allow it to return to closed position. I've never handled or shot a Kreighoff, but didn't the O/U design stem from the 1930's Remington M32?? Just curious, but what was their record for durabillty- they were quite heavy I believe> RWTF
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His gun, his call, but I am on the same page as you are- I have the barrels pointed to the ground in front of me, bring the buttstock and receiver group upwards to the breech with the opening lever pushed over to the right, when I feel the barrels seated in the action, I slowly release the lever and allow it to return to closed position. I've never handled or shot a Kreighoff, but didn't the O/U design stem from the 1930's Remington M32?? Just curious, but what was their record for durabillty- they were quite heavy I believe> RWTF
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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