I agree with Battle, except for the part about it being simple...the novelty of owning an Ideal can last a lifetime...there's not too many guns that can do that...and even less round actions that can hold your imagination for long time... if you can't live with the Ideal's rising bite lock-up, there are uasually guns made by Cordy (Liege) offered for sale here and there... except for a photo of 1 or 2, every Cordy SxS I've seen was a round action hammerless...boxlocks and sidelocks...to me, the name "Cordy" is almost synonomous with the round action...

They don't get much rounder than a Darne