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Thanks Aaron, I have an Eley cartridge catalogue from 1936 which still lists pin-fire cases for loading. I'll log into the links above. Lagopus.....
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Great to see that Horsley ! I have 1547 also built as a pinfire of the same pattern in 1866 but subsequently converted to c/f. I now know how it looked originally!!!!
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I have never seen a Canadian advert for pinfire cartridges, but it is not difficult to imagine gun dealers in Montreal and Toronto importing primed cases. Most complete cased gun examples I’ve encountered included loading tools of some sort, so loading one’s own must have been commonplace. With the pinfire system remaining popular in France, there would be regular trade with Lower Canada, so probably a ready supply. Unlike in the US in New York and Baltimore, there does not seem to have been any local gunmakers making pinfire guns in Canada. There is an auction coming up here that includes a great many early Canadian-made percussion guns, no pinfires: https://live.millerandmillerauctions.com/
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There was at least one Canadian patent for a pinfire gun and cartridge though I am not sure it was ever made: Also, here is an ad from a Canadian gun dealer that offered pinfire cartridges for sale. I also have seen many many Eley advertisements in many Canadian newspapers listing cartridges including pinfire for sale wholesale only, from London.
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Fantastic, thanks AaronN!
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Courtesy of Steve Helsley, here is a page from a 1925 Nobel catalogue that mentions pinfire cartridge cases, including the possibility of ordering them loaded with black powder, or with smokeless powder (!), though it was not recommended. Thanks, Steve, for a great find.
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Intriguing that they offered them loaded with smokeless powder ! I wonder if there was ever a pinfire nitro proof or re-proof???
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I've never seen one nitro proof but I do have two factory loaded cartridges; one with Shultz and one with Smokeless Diamond according to the top wad. Lagopus....
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Perhaps just from more pragmatic times ! Very interesting nevertheless !
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This is not a "game gun" but might be of interest: J.C. Reilly pin-fire pistol at Rock Island - and they almost got the date right it would have been made between summer 1856 (about the time Reilly made his first pin-fire) and September 1857 (when J.C. retired). This pistol is very interesting for one reason - I didn't know that J.C. ever marketed a center-break gun.. He surely never made one. 49 bore = .45 caliber. London proofs. Where is the "Joseph Charles" - there is only "Reilly, 502 New Oxford Street, London" on the barrel. https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/1038/4156/engraved-pinfire-pistol-by-reilly-of-londonI ended up winning this. $950 before fees and shipping. Should be about $1200 or so all in. I'll be sure to take more pictures when I get it.
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