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What makes a shotgun perfectly balanced? Is it in the eye of the holder? What feels perfectly balanced to me may not for you? How can you pick up a gun at the Southern and say, wow, this feels great. Then pick up dozens of other shotguns , best guns, and none have the same feel. Wouldn't you expect a Boss or Purdey to have the same feel or is it all just individual?
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Subjective for certain but many agree on a few basic things. But just like what makes a lady beautiful is debatable, so to is what makes a gun "perfect". But most seem to have a feel for what they like and many will struggle to explain it when asked. Hand size, arm lengthen, body size, body type, shooting style all need to be balance against what type of shooting is, what the gun weighs, what the balance point is, LOP, barrel length and about five extra things that seem to enter the decision. You sir, have opened a can of worms and I am happy to see the reasoned responses.
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ah yes, but a delightful subject to ponder...
one needs to be constantly on a quest for the right gun for the right purpose...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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The vibrant used gun market is perfect evidence of what you just described as not working.
A perfectly balanced gun for me, is just one that I can hit with consistently.
Much like inaccurate rifles, I have no use for a gun I can not hit with.
I seen too many people crow about how “the gun felt perfect in the shop”, who can’t hit their ass with either hand.
Last edited by ClapperZapper; 10/08/21 01:53 PM.
Out there doing it best I can.
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That's hogwash. All that to-do about English guns balancing on the cross pin when, if you put two loaded shells in the chambers it will no longer balance at the same spot. What good is it to brag on a gun "balancing at the cross pin" when it's empty? Empty guns break no clays, nor do they kill birds.
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This business of balancing on the pin etc means little. You can balance a gun on the cross pin while hanging ten kilo weights on either end.
I suspect that what most people mean by balance is handling. The main thing there is to have a gun that does not fight you when you move it, ie has most of its mass in the part between the hands. This is not exclusively a best gun feature. In a blind test described in a British magazine a humble Bernardelli Ellio 16g came out as best handling.
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But for over 200 pounds you can be lucky enough to own one of those balance beams!
So many guns, so little time!
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Interesting comments, wonder how many here has shot a well made English Best?
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Rocketman (Don Amos) describes feel as Moment of Inertia (MOI) and has a way to measure it. He also has a spreadsheet of the guns he's measured.
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