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My W&C. Webley& Scott have this concealed cross bolt system. I have tried to find the name with no success. Can you tell me the system name? ![[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]](https://i.ibb.co/fqjW0L2/Collage-Maker-20210722-094032644.jpg)
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I think its called the "Greener" cross bolt which was used by several manufacturers. My Baikal IZH54 SxS has one.
Now I come to look more closely I see that its a concealed bolt as you explained and in that case the Greener type is probably incorrect.
Last edited by Thruxton; 07/22/21 06:15 AM. Reason: Additional information.
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It is still the same mechanism as a standard Greener bolt. The left side of bolt is cut off short and the hole through which it was installed is filled with a metal plug.
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Thanks for your words, but is not the Greener cross bolt system. There's no filled hole on the left fence (side) as you can see. ![[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]](https://i.ibb.co/L1qqmSk/IMG-20210706-195150301-2.jpg)
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A concealed or hidden 3rd(third) fastener typically denotes an upper rung or higher echelon offering.
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Always superb info here: http://www.hallowellco.com/concealed_third_fastener.htmNow you didn't post an image of the breech so I assume it is the longer Greener(circular) extension Serbus, Raimey rse
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I have previously owned a Thomas Wild hammer gun with this feature. Looking at my Webley & Scott book it does seem to feature in a number of their guns from the hammer gun era and beyond. Not all that common on other guns from what I see. Lagopus…..
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If memory serves me correct, some Lindner-Daly A&D Body actions(like Diamond Quality, etc.) had the square version of the Greener.
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