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Described as "English," I believe it is actually Belgian. Sanderson's was an importer, known to sell Spanish doubles. The level of quality is obviously pretty good. I left a bid of $1700, and wound up the under-bidder.  A thunderstorm brought trees down and I was without power and off-line.  So it goes. Can anybody identify the maker?https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?lid=62268985 |  |  |  
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It’s a very early Bentley Patent [English] gun.  I would be surprised if it were made after 1900. |  |  |  
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On the bottom left of the middle flats photo, I see the Liege proof mark with "12-70" under it.  Sanderson's of Portage, I seriously doubt, was importing shotguns (or in business) pre-1900.http://gerardcox.blogspot.com/2014/06/deciphering-belgian-proof-marks.html
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So is Bentley the owner of the monogram on the water-table that is coupled w/ the number >>539<<?
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>>......Thomas Andrews opening business in 1883 at 25 New Road Woolwich, Kent. He moved several times but apparently stayed in the Woolwich area. Was said to have closed about 1901.<<https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=521840 Serbus, Raimey rse |  |  |  
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Looks like the Belgian date code is an underscored / underlined >>C<< or >>E<< or similar so that dates to the 1960s?
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The one at Christies sold remarkably well given that it was sold as a non-shooter and appears to have had a broken and obviously repaired wrist to the stock. |  |  |  
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It looks to be a Birmingham gun made between 1875 and 1887.  Rebarreled  in Belgium much later. |  |  |  
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