Said he would be at the Vintagers, never saw him at the Fox display which would have been the logical place for him to present the "pictures" if not the gun. I am being patient and understanding. Don't want to be too cynical. I want to shoot the "Bigun" with some of my big lead #4 loads from the sixties. Yup, I still have a few in once fired WW hulls. Loaded them when I was a pup.