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I was gifted a wooden box with a bunch of loaded 9.3x72R cartridges recently. In this box was also the appliance shown below. It seems to be a cartridge gauge perhaps? It is solid brass with no visible markings. The cartridge rim rests below the flange about 0.015"-ish when inserted. The bullet will not enter the small end but I have not measured it. Any help with ID'ing is appreciated.

Thanks,
Hoot

At a WAG, is it a hydraulic de-capper for Berdan primers?

Is there a snugly fitting plunger to go in the top end?

Hoot 4570,
I think Parabola's WAG is as good a guess as any. Is there a base with a hole large enough to pass a .254" primer, in addition to a plunger?

I haven't dug to the bottom of the box yet but, so far, this is the only bit in there besides the ammo. I'll dig a little and see if there are other parts hiding....

This is called bullet seater die in old catalogs. With it came a brass "mushroom" seater.

With kind regards,
Jani

P.S.: here is a similar device, complete with the mushroom shaped bullet seater, albeit for muzzleloaders: https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/...g_1_1922436274a9d01587e4b495a45ecdd0.jpg

Jani,
That makes sense also, I disregarded that use because Hoot 4570 said a bullet wouldn't go into it. BTW, I couldn't get the link to open up.
Mike

What Jani told is in an AKAH catalogue from 1908:



Cheers,
Wolfgang

Kugelsetzer


Apparate zum Laden von Patronen.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Well, there you go! Thank you gentlemen!

BINGO!

Dug through the box and found the goodies below:







And, a correction: A 9.3 bullet WILL fit in the small end of the 'base'. I probably grabbed one with a flaw or something that didn't fit.


There were also these two items. I tried to get an internal picture but can't. However, there is a captured spring inside each. Neither of these will fit into the small end of the kugelsetzer but will fit over a 9.3 bullet. I assume one places a bullet in the end of the tube and then inserts into a loaded case...maybe? Any thoughts?