some years ago, when steel shot was mandatory for waterfowl, a local dealer had a flat of Federal Premium 12 ga. coppered 1&1/4 ounce no 4 in 2&3/4'- I snapped it up in a heartbeat, use it in mt A-5 with the tight tube for neck shots on Toms in Spring and Fall seasons.. I've had a few Tom's with detatched beards and necks, but none got very far-3-4 steps maybe--RWTF

"The field is the touchstone of the man"..