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Robert:
IE the Schilling.
I have no idea of the name of the pattern but do know that Schilling was the maker. His firm was perhaps the premier barrel maker in Suhl. You will find his mark on any number of better to best German guns. These barrels appeared to be alternating steel and iron.
You are correct that when the barrels are polished, they do shine like silver. Overall, that gun pictured is a very elegant one.
I mentioned that these barrel types were used in England. I know that Rigby made quite a few rifles with this treatment. Do not know if there any English shotguns having them.
I had assumed that more makers may have used it, but have never seen any but Schilling and Rigby.
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Quote:
James Trilling, "Ornament: A Modern Perspective" p253
The term "Damascus steel" refers to two quite different techniques. "Oriental" or "true" damascus displays a light-and-dark crystalline pattern on its surface, while in "mechanical" or "pattern-welded" damascus the pattern is formed by two separate alloys which turn different colors when etched. .... Of the two types, only pattern-welded damascus has a long if somewhat sporadic history in Western craft.

I think we can be sure this gun was made after 1898. In which case, the faux damascus laws would be in effect within Belgium.

None of the barrels shown above says, "Damascus" on them. This would be in keeping with the laws. So, is it possible we have a faux damascus? Steel barrels that have been say coated in wax and dipped in acid to produce an etched damascus-like pattern? I am just speculating. The only sure answer would be a metallurgical examination of the tubes. There seems to a some "depth" in the picture, as though some metal has been taken away.

Sweep, can you feel this "pattern" when you run your fingers over it?

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Yes you can feel the pattern when you run your fingernail across it. This is the first one of these I have seen.

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The barrels i posted a picture of look like they were painted on and clear coated. The action also looks like it was painted on and baked. It has a golden brown (more gold then brown) color to it.


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