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ClapperZapper #585244 11/24/20 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: ClapperZapper
You scold Konor, and overlook the resident Klannsmen? What next? Phrenology studies of African males?

I am far more sickened by the sage of Mississippi than any views a Scotsman may have on concealed carry.



Gee ClapperZapper, I didn't know that Democrat Klansmen Robert Byrd was a member here. And take a gander at all of these other racist politicians KKK members who are Democrat:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_members_in_United_States_politics

It looks like the number of Democrat politicians who were KKK members is at least 10 times the number or Republicans. And then we probably should also look at all of the Liberals and Democrats you support who got busted for wearing Black Face.

But you probably don't wish to go there... I wonder why???


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Originally Posted By: John Roberts
Originally Posted By: ClapperZapper
You scold Konor, and overlook the resident Klannsmen?

I am far more sickened by the sage of Mississippi than any views a Scotsman may have on concealed carry.


Yes, you would be. Pretty sure your experience with the descendants of slaves on a daily basis is infinitesimal compared to Down South folk, but I could be wrong in that regard. Trust me when I say we know them well and get along pretty well in spite of the race-baiters who do not want that. But there is no denying the fact of their participation in crime vs their percentage of the population that is off the chart, and their small contribution of good citizenship.

So, I view your response as a compliment. Thanks.
JR


John, your racial bigotry is well known and disgusting. Yes, I know you are quite proud of it, which makes it all the more digusting. Yes, I've lived in the South and worked there even longer, so I am well aware of what is it like, and how you and people like you contribute that atmosphere of hate.

Dave has no guts to clean this place up and make it civil forum. Nor does he even have enough interest in it to post here more than once or twice a year. So I won't bother to observe the "rules" they are a joke that only protects those who continually, repeatedly, and vigorously abuse them.

Disgusting, indeed.


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Konor3inch #585250 11/24/20 02:15 PM
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Its not race, its a sub culture and I will remind you, there are more whites on welfare than any other race in USA. Yes I know the percentages but it is a cultural or lack of culture problem. Race doesnt have much to do with it.
Sorry teaching kids the difference between right and wrong is the problem.
That Hood culture and entitlements have created our mess. Very sad.

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Originally Posted By: canvasback
There are other forums that are moderated and where politics are not allowed. 16 Gauge Society and Upland Journal forums come to mind. Many members here believe simply owning a gun, when gun ownership is under attack, is itself a political act. And because of that, feel the two are inseparable.

This is largely an unmoderated, or very lightly moderated forum. No one here is changing. So get used to it. The upside is there is no better forum to discuss and learn about vintage SxS.


It looks like Ill be doing that get used to it thing .
As you say there is no better forum to discuss and learn about vintage SxS so I will settle back and enjoy those topics being discussed.
It would probably be appropriate at this point to thank all the contributors who make that possible whatever their political leanings. Thank you

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Konor3inch #585252 11/24/20 02:22 PM
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John Roberts is on the right track regarding the localization of crime. For certain reasons it is very localized. Canadian like to brag that our crime rates are so much lower than the US. But in reality, our crime rates are very similar to vast swathes of the US. Most places I might ever go.


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Konor3inch #585256 11/24/20 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: Konor3inch
You are correct that I am concerned about the numbers of people needlessly killed by firearms abuse I would say we all are. Are you not?....

...As has happened here already laws have been introduced arguably in a proportionate response to events that have occurred. Your premise that all guns would be banned is an unnecessary worry but thank you for your concern....

You are sort of a fact kind of person. Take a minute and look up how many people where shot in New York and Chicago this past weekend, and the number that subsequently died. Dont be shy about noting if the numbers are up or down, then note that the politicians that enable those horrific firearm crimes to take place are exactly of the same political mindset of yourself and other left wing leaning members.

From one point of view, the terrible gun crimes are inexcusable, but if you ask yourself why you and political folks of similar mindset can excuse it with an intellectual brush off, should those on the other side of the aisle feel guilt with your attempts to assign guilt where there s none?

Thank you for commenting, but I do not perceive that you answered how eliminating handgun target shooting addresses criminal activity of any sort?

BrentD, Prof #585257 11/24/20 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted By: BrentD
....John, your racial bigotry is well known and disgusting. Yes, I know you are quite proud of it, which makes it all the more digusting. Yes, I've lived in the South and worked there even longer, so I am well aware of what is it like, and how you and people like you contribute that atmosphere of hate.

Dave has no guts to clean this place up and make it civil forum. Nor does he even have enough interest in it to post here more than once or twice a year. So I won't bother to observe the "rules" they are a joke that only protects those who continually, repeatedly, and vigorously abuse them.

Disgusting, indeed.

What say you Konor, bigotry or excusable because you think hes on your side? Imagine if your tent was a forum, welcome the above with open arms?

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Originally Posted By: craigd
Originally Posted By: Konor3inch
You are correct that I am concerned about the numbers of people needlessly killed by firearms abuse I would say we all are. Are you not?....

...As has happened here already laws have been introduced arguably in a proportionate response to events that have occurred. Your premise that all guns would be banned is an unnecessary worry but thank you for your concern....

You are sort of a fact kind of person. Take a minute and look up how many people where shot in New York and Chicago this past weekend, and the number that subsequently died. Dont be shy about noting if the numbers are up or down, then note that the politicians that enable those horrific firearm crimes to take place are exactly of the same political mindset of yourself and other left wing leaning members.

From one point of view, the terrible gun crimes are inexcusable, but if you ask yourself why you and political folks of similar mindset can excuse it with an intellectual brush off, should those on the other side of the aisle feel guilt with your attempts to assign guilt where there s none?

Thank you for commenting, but I do not perceive that you answered how eliminating handgun target shooting addresses criminal activity of any sort?



Perhaps if the hand gun ban had been brought in sooner the inadequate that was Thomas Hamilton would not have gone on to kill the school children he did in Dunblane. Equally no one will ever know how many similar incidents were avoided by bringing in a ban. That handgun target shooting ceased to exist is of little concern to the vast majority of Scots.
The fact that we do not have the scale of problems with handgun or indeed any firearm crime seems to evade you. Perhaps if we had freely available handguns owned for self defence and licensed to be carried by anyone passing a concealed carry course we would. We will not be going down that road to find out . Is that a surprise to you ?There is no hankering after handguns here among the Scots population perhaps you know better ,if so please enlighten me.

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Originally Posted By: craigd
Originally Posted By: BrentD
....John, your racial bigotry is well known and disgusting. Yes, I know you are quite proud of it, which makes it all the more digusting. Yes, I've lived in the South and worked there even longer, so I am well aware of what is it like, and how you and people like you contribute that atmosphere of hate.

Dave has no guts to clean this place up and make it civil forum. Nor does he even have enough interest in it to post here more than once or twice a year. So I won't bother to observe the "rules" they are a joke that only protects those who continually, repeatedly, and vigorously abuse them.

Disgusting, indeed.

What say you Konor, bigotry or excusable because you think hes on your side? Imagine if your tent was a forum, welcome the above with open arms?


Whom are you accusing of bigotry , John or BrentD ?
Im afraid I speak for myself only as I find that I am more able to comment on issues that I am well informed rather than on those I have limited experience.

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