Researcher mentions the ill advised Remington 3200 28" Live Bird gun, which is rare and collectable, but not a modern live bird gun. Another poster mentions the light barrel 28"Beretta SO pigeon guns which are from another era, not popular today. I have one of those Beretta light pigeon guns and wish I could shoot it well, but it just isn't a good gun for modern box birds. Oddly, I will be shooting box birds tomorrow and will be using a K32 with the rare 29" pigeon barrels bored about .030 and .035, the tightest chokes I can hit a pigeon with at my advanced age and depleted physical condition. My Parker PHE trap with short vent rib barrels will be my backup. Both are crossover guns. The American pigeon shooters of the forties and fifties were turned on to short barrels by the Europeans who shot not only short barrels, but very light guns and heavy loads. I think they conditioned themselves by shooting thousands of songbirds in the off season with these same guns and loads.
