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Thin barrels are not the only reason for RST shells. I was shooting a Toledo Arms 20 ga. pump gun, with low pressure, roll crimped, 2 1/2" reloads. It has a full choked barrel and just crushes birds. The barrels are a surprising Krupp steel but 115 years is a long time on these early pump guns. Missed low five for a 25. You would think after a hundred years that gun would know how to hit a flat bird. I will have to try again.
I did check the barrel wall thickness and they were more than adequate for use but it was designed when factory shells were a lot lower pressure than today's factory shells. I do love RST shells but they are a bit pricey to me at $13.00 per box.
I can easily find 20 ga. empties for free at the club. Trimming them to 2 1/2" is very simple. Reolading on a MEC single stage loader and then roll crimping. Total per box cost is just over $4.00 a box. This is my standard low pressure load for all my classic gun needs. I also have a star crimped version when I am doing large volumes on my Spolar reloader but I just think a roll crimped shell ought to be used in a fine double. Just like paper, with Red Dot powder, are the perfect smell combinations on a cool Fall morning.
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The RSTs won't hurt it. Bumping it onto something hard when you're cleaning it, or putting it away, might.
Did you know it was still pitted at .020" when you bought it?
SRH Nah,it was not disclosed, nor was the MWT. But then, I didn't ask...Geo
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I looked at that one. Even if the pits are not in the .012 area I had to laugh and pass. That is a candidate for a sleeve job if any every was. Was thinking a 16 to 20 sleeve job but the 28” Barrels did not suit. I guess I could dream about a 32”/ 20 sleeve job with new top rib. That should set you back a couple thousand pounds. So let turn a $1,000 thin walled, basket case, into a $5,000 money pit. Better budget $6,500 just to be safe if it needs a bit of tidying up. Will you import it for me SKB? That should bring it up to $7,000 if it does not get lost in shipping. How good money chases bad buys sometimes.
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Bargains abound for the brave?
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Is .012, with pitting, brave? I’ll pass on that type of bravery. I did tell my wife a dress made her look a bit heavy once. Took months for My wounds to heal. Some ladies are a bit touchy about weight I learned.
About the H&H. Would you shoot it? I know “depending on where” might be your answer but I would not. Take a couple pieces of .006 steel shim stock and see how thin they look. Heck even if you add a third, .018 in total and they still look scary thin.
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No....to thin for me. I would not shoot it or buy it.
That said, I am looking for just the right gun that needs to be re-barreled. I have a pile of tubes and some tube sets on the way and I am a gluten for punishment at times.
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