I don't own a pump gun and I've never tried the short "shorties" but I have used a fair number of the roll crimped Gamebore 2" shells loaded with 5/8 oz #7 shot in my double guns hunting in the uplands (cases are just over 1 3/4" long when fired). They patterned well and were very effective on bunnies, the occasional woodcock or squirrel; and even on one old coon. Recoil was very mild, but what I liked most was how easy they carried over a long day afield kicking brush; was equivalent to having a .410 with the pattern of a 12-bore. I don't worry about home defense; wife would scare anybody off.
